Is This Post Mint Damage or Die Errors?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by marty priest, Sep 20, 2024.

  1. marty priest

    marty priest New Member

    I get a little confused when trying to figure out if the die his scooped out the coin in places or something else happened later. If mint damage is there any serious value here? SingleShot0004a.jpg
     

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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's just post-mint damage. It's not a Mint error.
     
  4. nwfdub

    nwfdub Member

    PMD. Value = 1 cent. Melt value =2.82 cents. Before anyone says anything about melting being illegal, regardless there remains a melt value.
     
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  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    And they tax unrealized gains he's going to owe capital gains tax on the 1.82 cents, so it's a loser all around.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Absolutely Post Mint Damage. :snaphappy:
     
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  7. 71Avalon

    71Avalon Well-Known Member

    I never understood why it's illegal to melt down pennies. I didn't think the government cared what you did with coins and paper currency so long as you weren't counterfeiting.
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    DEFDAM - Definitely Damaged :yack:

    Circulation wear and tear.
    Not a mint error of any kind.
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    If you try to take any amount of copper Cents to a metal scrap yard they would turn you away. They DO NOT purchase copper Cents!
     
  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    If your plan is to scrap the copper cents for profit then it is illegal.

    But, per the code in § 82.2 Exceptions, (b) ...
    So if you wanted to take your copper pennies and, for novelty, create a big copper sword. Then you're all set. Of course, you'd have to add tin or something.

    Of course, after the novelty wears off ... I'm not sure how the law would prevent you from then sending that copper sword to the scrappers.

    This is also of course why making coinage in jewelry and selling it for a profit is not illegal.
     
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  11. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    …it’s known as, and prosecuted for “destruction of government property”, but the law was created to prevent profiting from government resources, among other things.

    I understand using coins as jewelry, but not if it means destroying them.

    Here’s a gray area: embedding coins in plastic/polycarbonite/epoxy. The coins aren’t really destroyed but they are irretrievable, for all intent and purpose.
    …imo…Spark
     
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  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    "amusement and novelty" ... part of the exception
     
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  13. 71Avalon

    71Avalon Well-Known Member

    LOL here's a good nightmare scenario for all of us: The government all of a sudden decides all coins and paper money, no matter how old, belongs to the federal government and that all collectors turn in their collections or face fines and/or jail. I know this will never happen but, boy the thought is pretty cringe worthy! :jawdrop: LOL
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If it helps my LCS buys Wheat Ear Cents for $.03 each. Yours is PMD.
     
  15. 71Avalon

    71Avalon Well-Known Member

    I would never do it unless copper went through the roof, but I don't think that will happen in our lifetimes if at all. Plus, I wouldn't have the heart to destroy a coin that's been around the block for 5 or 6 decades or more. I guess it's the history buff in me. Just can't destroy something old.
     
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