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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1477653, member: 19065"]"Hung up"? No sir. I'm patiently helping you understand and come up to speed on the <i>very real</i> threat and effect of environmental humidity on all paper, but particular to this thread, on paper money. I have underscored that there is also an accepted level of natural levels of humidity in notes and that it does not effect grading, one which I even agree with TPGs is acceptable and natural, but also that there is a point at which carelessness in storing currency may lead to potentially damaging results to the note over time. As I have been saying, the unsealed, "<i>breathable</i>" PCGS currency holder may not be the best option for controlling this risk factor when it comes to note preservation and some notes may even worsen over time even because of this, even when residing inside such an unsealed holder. I am saying that some notes may be original and have laid flat or flatter at the time of encapsulation, but in a breathable holder, begin to retain moisture absorbed from the environment and developing unappealing visual form, within a holder, post encapsulation, which may be irreversible and damaging to the paper.</p><p><br /></p><p>You may remain as thick as you like refusing to understand the dynamic of humidity's effect on paper and too big to reverse your thinking and initial erroneous comment citing factors for what causes paper to appear wavy. So since you refuse to take someone's reasoned and <i>experienced</i> words talking about this, please take the time to read just a sliver of what's available online, in books and practiced in most all library and museum conservation departments, this site regarding paper preservation and techniques that exist for monitoring and preventing damage <i>from the environment</i> on paper objects. There are a number of topics at this link that address what I have been referring to, conveniently published for your edification: <a href="http://www.nedcc.org/resources/leaflets.list.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.nedcc.org/resources/leaflets.list.php" rel="nofollow">Northeast Document Conservation Cente</a>r. </p><p><br /></p><p>Parts 2 and 4 should be particularly noted in reference to this discussion. While many will think the level discussed in the pages of this site excessive and only the realm of major public and private institutions and their processes, I feel it is collectors serious duty to attempt to implement as closely as possible the same care of their collections and that we do all we can to understand these factors as we steward our collections until we pass them on, and so that we may identify factors that help us protect the value of collections as well as not waste money adding to collections where potential risk factors are evident as we acquire pieces for our collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you expect others to accept your relatively junior comments about matters related to currency collecting then others will expect the same from you when they step in to clarify something you misspoke about and which had the effect of misleading others who outright agreed with you about something they couldn't even explain to defend themselves. Likewise, you ought to rethink calling people a <i>jerk</i> for challenging or clarifying information in your posts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1477653, member: 19065"]"Hung up"? No sir. I'm patiently helping you understand and come up to speed on the [I]very real[/I] threat and effect of environmental humidity on all paper, but particular to this thread, on paper money. I have underscored that there is also an accepted level of natural levels of humidity in notes and that it does not effect grading, one which I even agree with TPGs is acceptable and natural, but also that there is a point at which carelessness in storing currency may lead to potentially damaging results to the note over time. As I have been saying, the unsealed, "[I]breathable[/I]" PCGS currency holder may not be the best option for controlling this risk factor when it comes to note preservation and some notes may even worsen over time even because of this, even when residing inside such an unsealed holder. I am saying that some notes may be original and have laid flat or flatter at the time of encapsulation, but in a breathable holder, begin to retain moisture absorbed from the environment and developing unappealing visual form, within a holder, post encapsulation, which may be irreversible and damaging to the paper. You may remain as thick as you like refusing to understand the dynamic of humidity's effect on paper and too big to reverse your thinking and initial erroneous comment citing factors for what causes paper to appear wavy. So since you refuse to take someone's reasoned and [I]experienced[/I] words talking about this, please take the time to read just a sliver of what's available online, in books and practiced in most all library and museum conservation departments, this site regarding paper preservation and techniques that exist for monitoring and preventing damage [I]from the environment[/I] on paper objects. There are a number of topics at this link that address what I have been referring to, conveniently published for your edification: [URL="http://www.nedcc.org/resources/leaflets.list.php"]Northeast Document Conservation Cente[/URL]r. Parts 2 and 4 should be particularly noted in reference to this discussion. While many will think the level discussed in the pages of this site excessive and only the realm of major public and private institutions and their processes, I feel it is collectors serious duty to attempt to implement as closely as possible the same care of their collections and that we do all we can to understand these factors as we steward our collections until we pass them on, and so that we may identify factors that help us protect the value of collections as well as not waste money adding to collections where potential risk factors are evident as we acquire pieces for our collection. If you expect others to accept your relatively junior comments about matters related to currency collecting then others will expect the same from you when they step in to clarify something you misspoke about and which had the effect of misleading others who outright agreed with you about something they couldn't even explain to defend themselves. Likewise, you ought to rethink calling people a [I]jerk[/I] for challenging or clarifying information in your posts.[/QUOTE]
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