Is this odd color due to corrosion?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Norman Asis, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Good afternoon! I have a 2011-D Washington quarter and abit1979- D SBA dollar coin that have the similar color/toning. Just want to get some info on what may have caused this discoloration. Is this due to corrosion, scrubbing, wear from circulation? Oddly, I do like how it adds drama to the design on both coins in this condition especially the reverse.
    Appreciate
    any comments and or info. Thanks IMG_20180102_213354262-1.jpg IMG_20180102_213242452.jpg
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Yes. Environmental.
     
  4. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Th
    Thanks
     
  5. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    Is the edge of the coin also discolored or does it look shiny and new. If it looks shiny it's improperly annealed.
     
  6. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Both coin have the same discolored edge.
     
  7. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    In that case yes to environmental damage.
     
  8. Norman Asis

    Norman Asis Active Member

    Got it. Thanks
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm pretty sure that's not a valid diagnostic for improperly annealed coins.
     
  10. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

  11. mgmgmg75

    mgmgmg75 Active Member

    Please explain the improperly annealed coins.
     
  12. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Does it weigh the same?
     
  13. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

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  14. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think you need to read it again -

    The underlining and the bold text are my doing. The key word there is "some". In other words, while some improperly annealed coins may have a "shiny" edge - not all of them do. Thus the shiny edge is not a valid diagnostic. In order to be a valid diagnostic they would ALL have to have shiny edges.
     
  16. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    This is referring to how the planchet was laying in the annealing drum when it dried.

    You must not have read this part.

    "See the edge photo (#3) - it looks like a normal
    BU Quarter - the copper core shows a nice normal
    red color - that's because although the planchet
    itself (on a genuine mis-annealed planchet)
    would have the dark color on the smooth edge,
    once it's struck in the collar, and ejected, that
    dark color is removed from the reeding due to
    the ejection of the now-coin from the collar."
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    All I am saying that just because a dark coin has a shiny edge, that does not mean it is or was an improperly annealed coin.

    Is it possible that an improperly annealed coin could have a shiny edge ? Yes, it's possible. But not all improperly annealed coins have a shiny edge, and that includes reeded coins.

    Things that might be true are not valid diagnostics.

    Things that are always true are valid diagnostics.

    But don't take my word for it - ask Fred.
     
  18. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    Got it.
    Thanks
     
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