Is this for real?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Kentucky, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Although I have learned respect and appreciation for ancients from the fine people in the Ancients Forum, I am still hopeless at picking out fakes. Saw this on e-bay and can't believe it is authentic...is it?
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  3. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Looks like a hobo tetradrachm to me.
    (And no, there’s no such thing.)

    What was the description on ebay?
     
  4. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    I've seen various imitations of Athenian coinage struck by other kingdoms and tribes (Bactrians, Arabians, etc.) but the style is completely wrong for those. I suppose it's remotely possible there's some imitation that looks like that, but... I would need to hear from an actual expert. I like the phrase "hobo tetradrachm" and that seems accurate for now.
     
  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..you may have just coined a new phrase :D
     
  6. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    I didn't see the listing, but I suggest:

    RARE! Athenian, silver, un-published type and denomination!
    Obverse: Athena wearing porcupine quill headdress.
    Reverse: Chimpanzee-faced owl.


    ;-)
     
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Dude... Itsa CULTURE thing!

    Rainbow Steampunk!


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  8. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    It's a fake, pure and simple. I don't think it's even trying to pass as genuine. The details are too sharp, the patina too even, the surfaces too modern. It looks like it was pressed and not struck by dies. And the style is downright hideous.
     
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  9. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Yes, this coin is clearly a fake. It wouldn't pass as an imitative coin or an Athenian coin, for sure.

    This coin also has the appearance of having just come off the press and the engraving is just downright bad. The flat surfaces on both sides are very strange and don't look like anything that supposedly was hammer struck.

    The imitative coins so show signs of increasingly deviating from the original design, but those changes have been documented in various hoards found over many decades, so they are well known and avidly collected.
     
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  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

  11. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Why does the owl have a pig snout?

    It's really very creepy looking.
     
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  12. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    This one has much more detail.

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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Kentucky, your sheer incredulity that a fake this bad could be 'real[ly as fake as it looks]' is downright refreshing!!!
    On ebay, you see so many screamingly fake medievals --Zero points awarded for subtlety-- that it's almost tempting to feel a little schadenfreude that the same thing is happening with ancients in the more technical sense. ...But really, the more obvious they are, the better off we are.
     
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