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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2004779, member: 27832"]I used to view that as a positive sign.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had a run-in with a seller who was listing a large number of very poor-quality counterfeits, mostly of commemorative halves:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/please-help-stop-these-ebay-counterfeit-auctions.249020/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/please-help-stop-these-ebay-counterfeit-auctions.249020/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/please-help-stop-these-ebay-counterfeit-auctions.249020/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ebay-safety-return-policy-and-a-counterfeit.248045/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ebay-safety-return-policy-and-a-counterfeit.248045/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ebay-safety-return-policy-and-a-counterfeit.248045/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>After several users left negative feedback about counterfeits, he took his FB private (which prevented him from selling). After a month or so, he came back -- with most of that feedback wiped from his profile!</p><p><br /></p><p>It's possible that it was All A Big Misunderstanding -- but a <i>very</i> Big one, as he sold <i>dozens</i> of <i>obvious</i> fakes -- and that now he's selling only 100% legitimate coins. They're still mostly commems, though, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw eBay's entire operations center. I don't trust that the photos he is posting are the coins he's actually shipping; I don't trust his buyers to know whether they're getting real coins, and <b>I don't trust them to leave negs if they <i>do</i> get fakes</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why wouldn't they leave a negative for a fake? Well, all the guy's auctions say this:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And, judging from what I've seen on eBay <i>and</i> in discussions on CoinTalk, a lot of people will say "well, he sent me a fake, but he was apologetic and gave me a refund right away, so I shouldn't leave a neg or a neutral."</p><p><br /></p><p>In some "should I leave negative feedback" discussions, I come across as a bit of a hard-nose. This is why. By nature, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt; in fact, I left a neutral, not a negative, for the fake this seller sent me. But I've come to realize that I'm contributing to the problem by not negging habitual fake sellers.</p><p><br /></p><p>And, as I've said before, <b>eBay no longer takes counterfeit coin reports seriously</b>. People are selling fakes for months on end, I'm filing reports, and nothing is changing. You'll still be covered by Buyer Protection if you get a fake <i>and catch it in time</i> -- but don't expect eBay to shut the seller down. Not any more.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2004779, member: 27832"]I used to view that as a positive sign. I had a run-in with a seller who was listing a large number of very poor-quality counterfeits, mostly of commemorative halves: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/please-help-stop-these-ebay-counterfeit-auctions.249020/[/url] [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ebay-safety-return-policy-and-a-counterfeit.248045/[/url] After several users left negative feedback about counterfeits, he took his FB private (which prevented him from selling). After a month or so, he came back -- with most of that feedback wiped from his profile! It's possible that it was All A Big Misunderstanding -- but a [I]very[/I] Big one, as he sold [I]dozens[/I] of [I]obvious[/I] fakes -- and that now he's selling only 100% legitimate coins. They're still mostly commems, though, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw eBay's entire operations center. I don't trust that the photos he is posting are the coins he's actually shipping; I don't trust his buyers to know whether they're getting real coins, and [B]I don't trust them to leave negs if they [I]do[/I] get fakes[/B]. Why wouldn't they leave a negative for a fake? Well, all the guy's auctions say this: And, judging from what I've seen on eBay [I]and[/I] in discussions on CoinTalk, a lot of people will say "well, he sent me a fake, but he was apologetic and gave me a refund right away, so I shouldn't leave a neg or a neutral." In some "should I leave negative feedback" discussions, I come across as a bit of a hard-nose. This is why. By nature, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt; in fact, I left a neutral, not a negative, for the fake this seller sent me. But I've come to realize that I'm contributing to the problem by not negging habitual fake sellers. And, as I've said before, [B]eBay no longer takes counterfeit coin reports seriously[/B]. People are selling fakes for months on end, I'm filing reports, and nothing is changing. You'll still be covered by Buyer Protection if you get a fake [I]and catch it in time[/I] -- but don't expect eBay to shut the seller down. Not any more.[/QUOTE]
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