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<p>[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 3102232, member: 74222"]It was this lot that caused me to ask the question:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/ams/browse?a=291&c=4574&l=267512" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/ams/browse?a=291&c=4574&l=267512" rel="nofollow">https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/ams/browse?a=291&c=4574&l=267512</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Firstly, this is not Justinian, but Justin II. But that is not the problem, as a tremissis of Justinian and Justin II has the same value.</p><p><br /></p><p>The real problem was that this coin was not minted in Constantinople as the seller has listed it. It was minted in Ravenna. Ravenna-gold are 5x or 10x more expensive than Constantinople-gold. Any byzantine-collectors know it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gold coins minted in Constantinople and Ravenna have the same portrait so an untrained eye will not see a difference. But a Byzantine-collector would easily detect it by seeing the details. Ravenna Gold has heavy annular border at the flan, and also the design is like it has been stuck by a bee. Difficult to explain with words, but the point is that a trained eye can easily distinguish golds of Ravenna from Constantinople.</p><p><br /></p><p>I “lost” the bid as I was not so keen on that. But 360 Euro plus fee is still a bargain for a Tremissis of Ravenna. If I was a coin-dealer I would bid higher in order to make profit. But that was not my intention.</p><p><br /></p><p>So IF I had won that coin, and I paid, and the coin arrived to me, could the seller demand it back? – Probably not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 3102232, member: 74222"]It was this lot that caused me to ask the question: [url]https://www.biddr.ch/auctions/ams/browse?a=291&c=4574&l=267512[/url] Firstly, this is not Justinian, but Justin II. But that is not the problem, as a tremissis of Justinian and Justin II has the same value. The real problem was that this coin was not minted in Constantinople as the seller has listed it. It was minted in Ravenna. Ravenna-gold are 5x or 10x more expensive than Constantinople-gold. Any byzantine-collectors know it. Gold coins minted in Constantinople and Ravenna have the same portrait so an untrained eye will not see a difference. But a Byzantine-collector would easily detect it by seeing the details. Ravenna Gold has heavy annular border at the flan, and also the design is like it has been stuck by a bee. Difficult to explain with words, but the point is that a trained eye can easily distinguish golds of Ravenna from Constantinople. I “lost” the bid as I was not so keen on that. But 360 Euro plus fee is still a bargain for a Tremissis of Ravenna. If I was a coin-dealer I would bid higher in order to make profit. But that was not my intention. So IF I had won that coin, and I paid, and the coin arrived to me, could the seller demand it back? – Probably not.[/QUOTE]
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