Is this coin real? And if so, who is it? Thx

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Xodus, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    Hey guys,

    This coin looks odd to me in the sense that there are these weird divits. Normally when I see wear on coins it looks like copper/brass being moved, but these almost look like spots?

    Who is the person on the coin, thanks! IMG_20190115_171355048.jpg IMG_20190115_171446461.jpg
     
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  3. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Xodus, It loos like a Roman provincial coin, maybe Antioch? The person looks very young, maybe an emperors son. Diameter & weight would help.
     
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  4. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    Thanks Al! I was thinking maybe elagabalus or caracalla? In Antioch Syria would make sense..

    The coin is AE18 :) I don't have a scale, sorry.
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Probably Diadumenian from Anitoch like the one below.
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  6. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    Great, thanks guys!! That looks like a pretty cool coin then.
     
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  7. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

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  8. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    On the observe it says AYKM or AVKM.. I couldn't find one that matched?
     
  9. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    Maybe someone on CT have the reference book of McAlee “the coin of roman antioch”. It could help you to get more details on your coin.
     
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  10. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Ocatarinetabellachitchix, McAlee lists only two small bronze coins with a left facing bust of Diadumenian, on page 283, #749 & 750, & it appears to be the same type coin as in Doug Smith's collection (#749). The McAlee example is superior to Doug Smith's coin but there is no doubt they're the exact same type, & is listed as (Ex. Rare) :jawdrop:! It might pay for Xodus to send his coin to NGC along with the picture of Doug Smith's coin & see if they'll slab it, the least expensive tier of slabbing that is.
     
  11. VDB

    VDB Active Member

    Impressive match up. Looks like that’s definitely it!
     
  12. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

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  13. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Xodus, I found both of these coin types illustrated in AcAlee's book exactly where coinproject.com referenced them. The top coin is superior to AcAlee's example & the bottom example is inferior to McAlee's example. You have to understand that many of these small bronzes are difficult to attribute with complete certainty so a cautionary approach is necessary. coinproject.com is an important & valuable tool to use ;).
     
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  14. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    Thanks Al! It would be great if we could get all these nice references out there on the same page to share in the best pictures as well. I know I've come across several on Wildwinds.com that have wretched pictures and make it hard to determine if it's a match. Is there someone already doing this?
     
  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It's hard to do that because things are ever-changing and the information to be covered is so vast. There are several threads on CoinTalk which have some collected links and info. Here's one such thread:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancient-coins-beginners’-faq-thread.324858/

    I don't think coinproject is mentioned there although it is certainly a good resource. I don't think it is being actively updated though. I sent some unlisted coins for inclusion several years ago and never heard back nor were they included. I still use the resource somewhat regularly though, often just for the handy chronological list of Roman Imperial emperors/empresses/other:

    http://www.coinproject.com/roman_imperial2.php

    There are other such chronological lists but this one is nicely compact.
     
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  16. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much TIF. I like that list and some of those resources are brand new to me. I'll check them out after work :)
     
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  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Considering my coin was $6, I can't see spending anything to get one slabbed but we know we don't agree on that one. Being extremely rare does not make a coin worth $25. The demand for uncertainly identifiable, unattractive coins is not that great. Looking closer, I don't see the coin and mine being the same. Mine starts KAI C M but the Xodus coin looks like AVK M so might be Elagabalus. Am I imagining a trace of eagle at the bottom and a delta over the S? I know there are people who love to ID ghost coins. I don't claim to be good at it.
     
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  18. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    I thought it was Elagabalus (see pics above), but the ones I found on CoinProject all start with AYT. Do you know another resource I could find ones that say AVK or AYK ? Thanks!
     
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