Is this coin overgraded

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  1. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Florida girls have to love walking there sharks.

    I don't think its over graded nice strong strike and perfect bands I can care less about the toning though and imagine the CAC is not there.
     
  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Frankly, I can’t opine with any confidence on a toner. Trust your own eyes.
     
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  5. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Don’t go by the photo. That is probably a scan, which never shows detail or toning very well.
     
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  6. eddiespin

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  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    No it's not. NGC and CAC both agreed and both saw it in hand
     
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  8. Timewarp

    Timewarp Intrepid Traveler

    Sorry to say it looks like something I dug up metaldetecting. IMO
     
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  9. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    :( Too me, this toning, the spotting like this, it is damage to the surface. I've seen mercs like this up close and they look chipped in apearance. I also am not happy with the obverse hair. I can't tell from the images if this have and hits. The toning is just too much of a distraction. Maybe it will be different in the live auction.
     
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  11. baseball21

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  12. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    This is proof that photography is everything when selling a coin.
     
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  13. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Is this over graded?
    Franklin_Obv_close.jpg Franklin_Obv_slab.jpg
     
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  14. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

  15. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Florida girls have to love walking there sharks.

    actually for me grading MS buffalos confuse me.
     
  16. robec

    robec Junior Member

    I'm just showing why you can't just a coin by scans or lousy photos. They only tell part if the story.

    Frank_TV_ebay.jpg
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I get your point but they overgrade sometimes and we're just going off the pictures provided. If the latter aren't true and accurate representations, where are we going? Likewise, if CAC had your first pictures, do you seriously think they'd bean it? And if they wouldn't, we'd grade it the same way off those first pictures, wouldn't we?
     
  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    No, it is not over graded. I think it is a good looking coin, with excellent surface preservation.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    They overgrade sometimes. I didn't say they overgraded this time. Based on the first pictures it looked like they did, not on the second pictures.
     
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  20. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    Is that the same Franklin Half? BTW - it is not like that with the Merc. The Merc has motted toning that is usually flatout ugly in the hand.
     
  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They don’t grade off pictures so not sure what you’re trying to get at. The point has been how pictures can impact what a coin looks like. In all honesty it’s naive at best to say that a first tier TPG and CAC both got something wrong based off of pictures
     
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