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<p>[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 1052527, member: 21705"]Ok! Here's what I see:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Type 2</p><p>2. Small 8</p><p>3. H(ighest) W(ave) (of) H(air) left side to left of upright of R.</p><p>4. P(oint) (of) C(url) under inner curl of B.</p><p>5. Shoulder Loop under bust extends far to the right of the top of the 8 before rejoining the bust.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now the combination of 3 and 5 pretty much define it as the S-176 (Obverse 22).</p><p><br /></p><p>Now here's the more exciting part for you. The S-176 is usually accompanied by a crack in the right field which is not apparent on your coin. By chance it is the same verticle crack I am using to ID what I think is a new variety on a really beat up coin I've posted elsewhere. While the same obverse is used on other pairings, this is the only one without a crack on some early examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is no doubt this is an early die state example. Exactly how early I can't tell from the picture. But here is Breen's comments on the early die states:</p><p><br /></p><p>I. Perfect Obverse Die. Clapp claims a perfect reverse die, which would mean it was struck before the last of number 23 (S-162). Clapp 28-O. Unconfirmed as described and doubtless Extremely Rare if it exists.</p><p><br /></p><p>II. Faintest partial traces of a vertical obverse crack, not always visible on worn specimens. Reverse chip between D S is larger. Very Rare.</p><p><br /></p><p>III. Crack in field above S OF A, at first faint. Clapp 28-Ob. Rare.</p><p><br /></p><p>R4 by the way as a variety.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 1052527, member: 21705"]Ok! Here's what I see: 1. Type 2 2. Small 8 3. H(ighest) W(ave) (of) H(air) left side to left of upright of R. 4. P(oint) (of) C(url) under inner curl of B. 5. Shoulder Loop under bust extends far to the right of the top of the 8 before rejoining the bust. Now the combination of 3 and 5 pretty much define it as the S-176 (Obverse 22). Now here's the more exciting part for you. The S-176 is usually accompanied by a crack in the right field which is not apparent on your coin. By chance it is the same verticle crack I am using to ID what I think is a new variety on a really beat up coin I've posted elsewhere. While the same obverse is used on other pairings, this is the only one without a crack on some early examples. There is no doubt this is an early die state example. Exactly how early I can't tell from the picture. But here is Breen's comments on the early die states: I. Perfect Obverse Die. Clapp claims a perfect reverse die, which would mean it was struck before the last of number 23 (S-162). Clapp 28-O. Unconfirmed as described and doubtless Extremely Rare if it exists. II. Faintest partial traces of a vertical obverse crack, not always visible on worn specimens. Reverse chip between D S is larger. Very Rare. III. Crack in field above S OF A, at first faint. Clapp 28-Ob. Rare. R4 by the way as a variety.[/QUOTE]
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