is this an error?fake?gtg?1835 half cent help

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  1. shiny coins for life

    shiny coins for life Active Member

    This 1835 looks off to me. Is it real? If so what grade is it? Is that MD or DD? and what is going on with the L in liberty? I have a lot more questions than answers on this coin. All help will be appreciated.[​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I'm by no means an expert on these but those denticles look very suspicious.
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I know little to nothing about these, but IMO, a really sloppy copy.
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well here's what a real one looks like and with a mintage of 398,000 reported , I have my doupts. 1835 15 o.jpg 1835 15 r.jpg
     
  6. Looks like a copy to me...
     
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Very different looking from Paddy's example
     
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  9. Cringely

    Cringely Active Member

    It looks like a Cohen-2 variety. Look at http://www.goldbergcoins.com/content/?page_id=3145 to see what a truly fine (not F-12) example should look like. My guess is that it may be real (based on the doubling on HALF CENT), but I couldn't be sure without seeing it in hand.
    If you want an expert opinion and will be in the Dallas area April 30 – May 3, go to the EAC Convention http://eacs.org/2015Brochure.pdf
     
  10. Cringely

    Cringely Active Member

    The Goldberg link didn't work properly. Go there and look for Auction 77 (January 26, 2014) - The Missouri Cabinet and look at Lot 142.
     
  11. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Hmmm... there's something very "modern" looking about the surfaces, like a recent copy--just my unqualified opinion.
     
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Here are the images of the C-2 Cringely was trying to link. The OP does appear to be a C-2 but cleaned. Note the matching "crumbling" around HALF CENT. And the same odd triangular shaped denticals over ITE on the reverse.

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    Images from the Goldberg sale of the Missouri Cabinet collection Sale 77 Jan 26,2014 Lot 141
     
  13. Cringely

    Cringely Active Member

    If a copy, it is quite good. Take a look at the die doubling on HALF CENT and compare it to the Missouri Cabinet EAC MS-64+ example (Goldberg Auction 77, Lot 142.
    I do agree about the surfaces looking quite (too?) good. Perhaps a cleaning. Can't tell until I see much better pictures or in person.
     
  14. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    That's a beautiful coin--the OPs certainly looks based on that die pair, but don't the details look a bit mushy for such a grade? --just wondering here.
     
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  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    IDK...there's something that tells me "Run Forest Run....
    Unless it was slabed I personally would not touch it.
     
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  16. UnCommonCents

    UnCommonCents Variety Collector

    it shares a die crack on the reverse with coin that condor posted from C to A and beyond then has at least 2 other ones that i can see that are not on condors posted pic... Im no expert. just my observations
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The one I posted earlier was a proof example and a very early die stage. Here is a mid to late stage that has the cracks mentioned.

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    Image from the Missouri collection lot 142.
     
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