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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 936582, member: 26430"]<b>Good answer!</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah, it's really funny what you say about seeing the lion head with either orientation! We're neurologically programmed to see not only "what we want," but simply "faces" (human, otherwise), in abstract images, so that's a great note.</p><p> </p><p>Also agreed--not for sale! I would never sell anything unless I was absolutely positive. </p><p> </p><p>Plus, my specific gravity measures were based on a pretty crude DIY tool. 1: an oral syringe to find when the water tension breaks on a 1/8 teaspoon that had perfectly straight walls and base, 2: using marks on a thin plastic tube; and using the average of five measures each--I actually blogged on the probability theory behind this elsewhere. The range was too wide to be reliable: 0.1-0.35, though probability/measurement theory suggests I can say what average is, there is a wide range of possible error +/-! Thanks Adolphe Quetelet the astronomer (1835) and the "normal distribution"! So definitely could be wrong.</p><p> </p><p>Same Doug Smith as the one whose site I used (still use) to learn about ancient coins when I got into selling them in the early 2000s, I assume...? Not sure if we've ever talked before, but I appreciate your reply. So unless David Sear himself comes down with a positive ID, I take your opinion as the gold (EL?) standard. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>I didn't say anything to the seller at the time, because I didn't want to be one of "those people," but maybe I'm the only person to actually find a gold--well, possible electrum--coin in a bag of 1000. I think it's almost unanswerable....</p><p> </p><p>Is it really THAT overweight? I've seen ranges of 2.3-2.9... There were different "standards" everywhere, right, and some places would've weighed a hekte at 2.8, wouldn't they? I remember an academic-style paper on that--<b><span style="color: #1111cc">[PDF]</span></b> <a href="http://www.achemenet.com/ressources/souspresse/annonces/Samos-Konuk.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.achemenet.com/ressources/souspresse/annonces/Samos-Konuk.pdf" rel="nofollow"><font size="2"><span style="color: #551a8b">The Electrum Coinage of Samos in the Light of a Recent Hoard</span></font></a>-- though the link is broken now (still shows up in google, though). Euboic, Samian, Phocaic, Ionian standards, etc.? I think I understand this concept correctly, but I also noticed the heaviness as the first thing that made it seem like something other than a legit hekte.</p><p> </p><p>Definitely just an "educational" coin, an oddity, that I'll keep in my permanent never-sell collection. Ancient fourree (sp?) has always been my guess.</p><p> </p><p>Again, thanks for your opinion, it's highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 936582, member: 26430"][b]Good answer![/b] Yeah, it's really funny what you say about seeing the lion head with either orientation! We're neurologically programmed to see not only "what we want," but simply "faces" (human, otherwise), in abstract images, so that's a great note. Also agreed--not for sale! I would never sell anything unless I was absolutely positive. Plus, my specific gravity measures were based on a pretty crude DIY tool. 1: an oral syringe to find when the water tension breaks on a 1/8 teaspoon that had perfectly straight walls and base, 2: using marks on a thin plastic tube; and using the average of five measures each--I actually blogged on the probability theory behind this elsewhere. The range was too wide to be reliable: 0.1-0.35, though probability/measurement theory suggests I can say what average is, there is a wide range of possible error +/-! Thanks Adolphe Quetelet the astronomer (1835) and the "normal distribution"! So definitely could be wrong. Same Doug Smith as the one whose site I used (still use) to learn about ancient coins when I got into selling them in the early 2000s, I assume...? Not sure if we've ever talked before, but I appreciate your reply. So unless David Sear himself comes down with a positive ID, I take your opinion as the gold (EL?) standard. ;) I didn't say anything to the seller at the time, because I didn't want to be one of "those people," but maybe I'm the only person to actually find a gold--well, possible electrum--coin in a bag of 1000. I think it's almost unanswerable.... Is it really THAT overweight? I've seen ranges of 2.3-2.9... There were different "standards" everywhere, right, and some places would've weighed a hekte at 2.8, wouldn't they? I remember an academic-style paper on that--[B][COLOR=#1111cc][PDF][/COLOR][/B] [URL="http://www.achemenet.com/ressources/souspresse/annonces/Samos-Konuk.pdf"][SIZE=2][COLOR=#551a8b]The Electrum Coinage of Samos in the Light of a Recent Hoard[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]-- though the link is broken now (still shows up in google, though). Euboic, Samian, Phocaic, Ionian standards, etc.? I think I understand this concept correctly, but I also noticed the heaviness as the first thing that made it seem like something other than a legit hekte. Definitely just an "educational" coin, an oddity, that I'll keep in my permanent never-sell collection. Ancient fourree (sp?) has always been my guess. Again, thanks for your opinion, it's highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
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