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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2626373, member: 112"]That was the very first thing I thought of when I looked at this coin - how does a coin get struck when both dies are covered with a cloth, or the planchet is wrapped in a cloth ? Answer it doesn't. </p><p><br /></p><p>Think about it for a minute, these coins were struck with screw presses, screw presses are vertical. So there is no way that a cloth could accidentally get stuck on the upper die for it would merely fall off. On the lower die ? Yeah that could happen, but the upper and lower - nahhhh, aint gonna happen.</p><p><br /></p><p>Screw presses were also fed by hand, one planchet at a time. So while it is possible that a planchet could be wrapped in cloth and fed into the press, the likelihood of that actually happening is slim to none. More than one person would have to be involved, and allow it to happen, but mainly there would be no reason to do that to begin with. What I mean is intentionally producing error coins for profit didn't exist at that time, so nobody would even think of doing such a thing. And it simply could not happen accidentally. </p><p><br /></p><p>The other thing is, back then coins were individually closely checked and inspected back then, both before and after the strike. So no coin like this would or even could escape the mint, it would merely be pulled and sent for melting.</p><p><br /></p><p>Given those things there is one possibility left - post strike damage. My guess would be that somebody tried to create an error coin in modern times. Probably using a cloth, 2 pieces of leather, and a vise, or some kind of press. This is the only thing that really makes sense, to me anyway. I also suspect that the TPG was able to see that it is/was post strike damage during their in hand inspection - thus the code.</p><p><br /></p><p>And before you ask, no I can't give you an exact reason why some portions of the coin don't show the pattern while the all the rest does. But it could have been intentionally in an effort to pass the coin off as a legitimate error. That is at least possible. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I do know is it didn't happen on a press when the coin was struck for the reasons I explained above, so that only leaves intentional post strike damage, however it occurred.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2626373, member: 112"]That was the very first thing I thought of when I looked at this coin - how does a coin get struck when both dies are covered with a cloth, or the planchet is wrapped in a cloth ? Answer it doesn't. Think about it for a minute, these coins were struck with screw presses, screw presses are vertical. So there is no way that a cloth could accidentally get stuck on the upper die for it would merely fall off. On the lower die ? Yeah that could happen, but the upper and lower - nahhhh, aint gonna happen. Screw presses were also fed by hand, one planchet at a time. So while it is possible that a planchet could be wrapped in cloth and fed into the press, the likelihood of that actually happening is slim to none. More than one person would have to be involved, and allow it to happen, but mainly there would be no reason to do that to begin with. What I mean is intentionally producing error coins for profit didn't exist at that time, so nobody would even think of doing such a thing. And it simply could not happen accidentally. The other thing is, back then coins were individually closely checked and inspected back then, both before and after the strike. So no coin like this would or even could escape the mint, it would merely be pulled and sent for melting. Given those things there is one possibility left - post strike damage. My guess would be that somebody tried to create an error coin in modern times. Probably using a cloth, 2 pieces of leather, and a vise, or some kind of press. This is the only thing that really makes sense, to me anyway. I also suspect that the TPG was able to see that it is/was post strike damage during their in hand inspection - thus the code. And before you ask, no I can't give you an exact reason why some portions of the coin don't show the pattern while the all the rest does. But it could have been intentionally in an effort to pass the coin off as a legitimate error. That is at least possible. What I do know is it didn't happen on a press when the coin was struck for the reasons I explained above, so that only leaves intentional post strike damage, however it occurred.[/QUOTE]
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