Is this a proof Morgan (not PL)?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by MorganDollarGuy, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. I saw this coin listed as an "impaired proof" Morgan dollar. This is a raw coin from a seller with a lot of reviews. Based on the image, is this truly a proof coin? I'm not experienced enough to tell if this is a proof strike or business strike.

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  3. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Keep looking, it looks like a details coin
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It doesn't look like an impaired proof.

    Or any proof

  5. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Maybe @messydesk or @Dave Waterstraat know something about die markers for this date? It's hard to tell much from those pictures. I could about convince myself that the rims are a bit elevated from the denticles, but they don't look super square.
  6. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser Just plain busted Supporter

    The fact that it is from Great Southern is enough in and of itself to make one move on.
  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I think Great Southern's photos can make just about any coin look like just about anything they want to sell. Somewhere in their offices there's probably a computer screen with the Photoshop Brightness/Contrast/Levels dialog permanently burned in.
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well it's bid up to 265. with 12 hrs left. These photos are terrible.
  9. Dennis Misiak

    Dennis Misiak Member

    As W.C. Fields once said.......... "There's a sucker born every minute!" GSC is not an ethical dealer as they prey upon new collectors who think they are getting the coin for a steal, only to find out after they receive the coin that it was misrepresented
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  10. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'm not going to defend this dealer, I'm familiar with the word on the street concerning them. But my impression is that they do know their stuff, also some of their material has been cracked out of problem slabs and is sold raw. I think it's unlikely that they would list a Morgan as a proof if it's not, unless they just made a mistake in the listing. I'm willing to have folks differ with me on that.

    That said, even an impaired proof has value. But there is no way to evaluated the "impaired" from those pictures.
  11. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Wow! I never knew. I get an email or 2 a day. Never bought anything, but looked once. I think I'll SPAM them.
  12. JCKTJK

    JCKTJK Active Member

    watch out for great southern coins!!
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Great Southern has a reputation for selling problem coins that have been doctored.
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  14. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Well-Known Member

    Save your money! The pictures look very photoshopped and absolutely unnatural and it is definitely not a proof morgan silver dollar. Never believe that you'll be able buy a high quality MS coin in raw condition from a seller like this.
  15. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I can't really tell based on the photos, but the fact it's being sold by GSC is enough to make me pass.
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The rims could possibly convince me, but some areas of the obv show weakness that I would expect to see on a proof.
  17. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    Search "Great Southern" here on CT and you'll find out a lot.
  18. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Save your money and move on. Their reputation precedes them.
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You would be wise to forget this coin and move on. The seller is not a coin dealer but they are a coin doctor.
  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    STAY AWAY FROM THAT SELLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That seller is notorious for selling cleaned, polished, mis-described, problem coins.

    If you bought that coin, you would receive a harshly polished, circulated business strike dollar.
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  21. Thank you everyone. I'm not bidding on it.
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