Is this a PCI Slab?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Pickin and Grinin, Feb 13, 2025.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Even in hand I had a hard time telling if this was a PCI. It looks like one to me but the reverse is pretty bleached out.
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  3. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    I see a very faint PCI logo on the back.
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yep PCI-I can also see the faint logo on the back.
    The only other possibilities for this slab type are Dominion Grading Service (when David Lawrence Rare Coins bought PCI and briefly ran a grading company) and Hallmark (predecessor to PCI). Hallmark has "Hallmark" written on the top of the plastic on the front and Dominion has a blue label. So we can rule both out and conclude this is PCI (even if the faint logo was not there).
     
  5. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Here's a DGS slab,it's the only one I kept. 2006P ND Cud AU55 b-horz.jpg
     
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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I believe it's one of the early PCI holders. It has the early font and 10 digit serial number. After it came the ones with the green or red border on the label. I think this guy will know for sure. He may have actually graded the coin back then. @Insider
     
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I had thought I was reading PCI also. With that in mind, this is a 16D. Should the owner be scheptical about authenticity of the coin?
    I trust Insider, what would you value the coin at?
     
  8. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Exposed to sunlight, the green faded while the black (laser toner) didn't.

    PCI, its predecessor (Hallmark), and its intermediate form (DGS) are the only people who have used the cut-off corners (proprietary) slab.
     
  9. Eric Babula

    Eric Babula Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing old, green-label PCI. The green faded in the sunlight, as @Burton Strauss III indicated.

    Does this help?
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    This one, below, is a different slab - look similar?
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  10. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Green PCI, 10-digit serial #, two codes - is what I list as PCI5 in my notes (following the four types of photoslabs). 1991-2000

    Towards the end of 1999/Early 2000, they went to 14-digit serial #s, and then around 2002 to nine.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    This is the label I was talking about. One of the new owners tried to bring back the old green border label using a 10 digit serial number. there was a big difference in the grading standards.
    I believe the OP coin/label was before they started using the green border.
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  12. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Note the 6s that is the most distinctive difference in the font although there are others. Also the 1s.


    There is another "revival" of the green labels, completely fraudulent. On the reverse of these, the box is not micro print PCI PCI PCI bit rather blobs.
     
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  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

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  14. Fullbands

    Fullbands Certified Authentic Details

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    These are the last of the Hallmark slabs in my possession. Left over from the early days of Teletrade. You can see the molded lettering at the top.

    Rick L.
     
  15. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    Those PCI ownership changes are hard to keep track of. Someone put together a slide show that went over them with lots of pictures. I will see if I can locate it again.
     
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  16. numist

    numist Member Supporter

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  17. Rushmore

    Rushmore Coin Addict

    Is PCI still in business?
     
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  18. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    If somebody is in business using the pci shells and the pci name.

    They're mostly posting artificially toned morgans for sale on flea bay
     
  19. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    spot on.
     
  20. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    I ran into a dealer at the Tulsa show who said they knew the person with the rights to the shells, but they declined to share contact info.

    Whomever is doing this, they are using what I call "the bullet train" label - to me it has a blue locomotive and tracks around the edge.

    The cert#s are 2012.02/##### and the highest number I've seen is slowly increasing, 80k or 90k to date.

    Here is a listing of an 80k cert#:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/316111796198

    Oh, and there were earlier slabs with (from memory) 11??.95/##### certs.
     
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  21. numist

    numist Member Supporter

    I think the listing for 65+ must mean the number of bag marks... sheesh!
     
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