Is this a newer generation of PCI?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I thought I had seen them all, but this PCI generation is new to me.
    Anyone have any info on when these are from?
    Note: coin isn't mine; I found it browsing on eBay.
    @Burton Strauss III @Conder101

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I searched for a while to find any info on this slab.:watching:
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  4. thomas mozzillo

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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    Maybe has some info on their website. Maybe a number you can call?
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  6. dwhiz

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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The main PCI sample slabs are known, although some new ones can still pop up. Unfortunately this isn’t a sample.

    The website is no longer active and I’m not sure if the company is in business. Last I saw, they were under new management and were advertising through Coin World. The slab on their website looked different than the example posted in this thread.

    Yes I’ve seen that. PCI has gone through a multitude of owners (6 or 7...maybe even more)-some way worse than others. I do wonder if this slab was from that owner or a different one.
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  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Here is a screenshot of the PCI website in 2016. Web archive shows a similar website in 2017 and then there is no more (so they likely stopped paying for the domain in late 2017).

    The slab pictured on the website is what I thought was the newest (and maybe last) PCI slab.

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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    At one point they were attempting to become “eBay compliant” does not look like they succeeded (and the message was removed from the website sometime after 2015).

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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

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  11. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    There are two versions of what I call the "Bullet train" label (see @ddddd 's message #7 above). One has the 2012.02 code# and one has 2011.95.

    I believe these date from the reincarnation of PCI post Delluniversita period (2011 and 2012 as dates). I've watched the 2012.02 cert#s over the years, the highest I've seen is something in the 30K range - it appears they've done a dribble of coins and some bulk grading of ASEs over the years.

    The one in your first post rings a vague bell. But I would have to dig through my examples to be sure.
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  12. Kelly-Bob

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  13. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

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  14. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    Yes - same shells.

    DLRC shutdown and sold the intelectual property and machinery off and it reappeared as the fraudulent PCI
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  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I know about most, from the start (Hallmark to the green 10 digit PCI, the red problem holders, the signature series, DGS, the reincarnation of the green holders, gold holders, etc...). However, this is the first I've seen of that holder in my first post.

    I did just notice that the letters "PCI" are interwoven just like the letters on the DGS holder. So maybe this was a generation right after Dominion shut down?
  16. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Active Member

    The first iteration of PCI graded very conservatively. I had a few coins graded by PCI that either received the same grade from PCGS, went down a little (AU58 to AU55), or went up a little (AU58 to MS62). The next iteration was horrible. I bought a Morgan dollar graded XF45 that was accurately graded, but someone had tried to improve Liberty's hair with a pocket knife. Don't ask me why I didn't see the scratches before I bid on the coin. Anyway, if you can find any coins in holders with PCI green labels, you can probably get them for much less than they're really worth.
  17. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    Yes, the green label (3 codes on the reverse) are more consistent and stricter than the 2 codes green label.

    The gold box are junk.

    There is also a fake green label to watch out for... it uses a slughtly differnt label font and the microprinted reverse border isnt PCI PCI PCI PCI, but eather small blobs.
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I have not seen the PCI slab shown in the OP before. Have to wonder if the company has been sold yet again. Probably not as it references the no longer active website.

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  20. Mr Paddyman 98 what is ur opinion on these coin I have here are they grading material sorry about the phone camera images.

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