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<p>[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 131170, member: 1674"]There are 4 obverse dies that were used to make the 09 S VDBs so for MM location to be diagnostic of a fake the coin would need to be compared to all 4 of the real ones. I don't have the time to hunt through the Heritage archives right now, so I won't judge the coin based on MM location, but I agree that it appears to be an added MM. The MM is too big and the lower portion is larger than the top portion. On a genuine 09SVDB the MM has a rectangular outline and this one's is more trapezoidal. Additionally the wear on the MM is inconsistent with the wear on the date. The MM is rounded on top and the date is worn flat on top; this is indicative that the MM hasn't received as much wear as the date because it was added to the coin after the coin was well circulated. A genuine coin has similar wear on the date and mint mark. It is my opinion that the coin is altered.</p><p><br /></p><p>May the buyer beware![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 131170, member: 1674"]There are 4 obverse dies that were used to make the 09 S VDBs so for MM location to be diagnostic of a fake the coin would need to be compared to all 4 of the real ones. I don't have the time to hunt through the Heritage archives right now, so I won't judge the coin based on MM location, but I agree that it appears to be an added MM. The MM is too big and the lower portion is larger than the top portion. On a genuine 09SVDB the MM has a rectangular outline and this one's is more trapezoidal. Additionally the wear on the MM is inconsistent with the wear on the date. The MM is rounded on top and the date is worn flat on top; this is indicative that the MM hasn't received as much wear as the date because it was added to the coin after the coin was well circulated. A genuine coin has similar wear on the date and mint mark. It is my opinion that the coin is altered. May the buyer beware![/QUOTE]
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