Is this a error

Not an error technically. Anything caused by wear on the die is a die event.

 

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Thanks for your opinion.
Die cracks, chips, breaks and cuds are attributed as Mint Errors by the TPG's.
Here is an example from my collection

 

I would hardly take the TPGs as gospel on error and variety coins. For example, PCGS lists a misattributed 1988 RDV-005 as one of their illustrating examples of 1988 RDV-006...

https://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/37929381_164415776_2200.jpg

 

You are entitled to believe anything you want.
Thanks for sharing.

 

some on Ebay will pay more when they get into a bidding frenzy but I am with Paddyman98 on this. $1.00 is about right (I have paid that at a flea mkt once for one)

 

Hey 99¢ more for a penny is what’s the deal can’t beat that profit

 

Then who’s word should we take? Who sets the gospel for what’s an error?

There must be a standard to go by. If not the major TPG’s, then what?

 

I say..KISS
Keep It Simple Stupid..
No need to get so technical for such issues. We have enough new collectors (newbies) still trying to figure things out such as the difference between a Die Crack and a Lamination Crack

 

Just trying to give the op something to think about.

 

No one is going to be correct 100% of the time - including the TPG’s.
If they are presented with solid evidence of their error, I’d bet they’d correct it.

 

TPGs rarely specialize in error and variety coins. They will slab them, but it is not their focus. They are experts in the more lucrative world of general interest numismatics, but they are often poorly informed about niches like errors and varieties. I would take the word of actual error and variety experts over theirs.

 

I disagree.. The experts have also been wrong at times also. I have witnessed it myself.. Like I said. KISS.

Why has this turned into such a unnecessary discussion. If an issue occurred during the minting of a coin makes it different from its intended look then it's a mistake/error. Even a worn die will create the issue. Aren't major die breaks such that create cuds desirable?
Leave it alone.

 

I never claimed they weren't desirable, it was just an observation about nomenclature. Wasn't meant to be argumentative, just a technical correction.

As for the experts making mistakes - obviously we are all human and prone to mistakes. That is how these coins leave the mint in the first place. But the TPG graders rarely specialize in these things, so I'll take the word of a top expert over the word of the guy who may only dabble at NGC but has access to their label maker.

 

@SamCoin
Good for you.. Have a nice day.

I'm getting ready to go metal detecting!

 

Ed, you've got a broken finger. Is that an error? It's damage, isn't it? You've got a sixth finger. Now there's an error.

I agree with Sam, I don't care what these TPGs say.

 

@SamCoin, not to drag this out, but I for one would be curious to know your background and experience as you seem to know errors fairly well. @paddyman98 is a well-known, very experienced error collector and most members here take his posts knowing this. So, please add your credibility by giving us some background.

 

You can take that path if you want.. I know I'm not. You guys want to take the fun out of mint error collecting go right ahead. That's your problem

 

Not sure why I'm humoring this appeal to authority, but, while I wouldn't call myself an "expert," I would say at this point I'm a quite knowledgeable collector when it comes to my area of interest, which is modern US and world error and variety coins. My focus as a collector is pretty narrow, so I would say I'm practically a beginner in a lot of areas like classic coins, grading, etc., but when it comes to identifying and describing errors and varieties, I'd say I can stack up against even the experts most days. While we're appealing to authority, the person who first drew this distinction to me between errors and die events is the very well known and knowledgeable e&v expert Coop of the Coin Community Forum, who I believe is also associated with Coppercoins.

 

I guess you know that the TPGs use some of these same top experts. Many different coins are called error coins to keep things simple. Few real experts will even argue the point. It's silly to do so.

 

Soooo interesting. Tell us more.