Is this a 'Details' coin ?

Consider please the edge taps, and what are, in my opinion (and also described as such in the catalogue), adjustment marks.

The coin shows very nice in-hand, with a nice pewter patina and some very minor residual luster. In my opinion, (and that of the Stacks catalog) not cleaned.

It is by the way an O-102.

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Are you asking about the tiny little rim bumps visible on the reverse?

Perfectly acceptable on a circulated coin like this - these are nowhere near bad enough to make it a details coin.

 

Beautiful coin all around!

 

Yes, thank you!
I was referring to the small bumps on the reverse, but also small taps between 3:00 and 6:00, plus slight edge 'roughness' on the top of the obverse.

 

I see mint made adjustment marks. A few tiny reverse dings that are totally acceptable likely an ancient dip it’s recovered nicely from and a great coin of a really tough date I grade xf 45

 

The only thing that would concern me (and a TPG) would be the scratches on the obverse.
The question would be, "Are they normal wear or Mint adjustment marks?"

 

I also agree this coin would likely not get a “details” grade. It looks nice!

 

Good looking coin. At that age, a few nicks could be expected and pardoned.

 

I don't see it as a details coin.

 

I agree with Mainebill's comments. Should straight grade if submitted.

 

It might come back as a "details" grade coin, but not because of the minor rim issues. I don't care for the color, especially above the eagle's head, and to a lesser extent in front of Ms. Liberty's face. Those areas look like they have been cleaned to me.

 

No, it would grade straight. Not a details coin. It is a beautiful example of its type, and has great eye appeal. I would guess it would grade as XF 40-45.

 

Considering the age of the coin and the uneven coloration, I believe it was cleaned in the distant past, but I think it would straight grade.

 

I too believe the coin had an older cleaning and is retoning, but the (adjustment) marks across the obverse might be a problem. I think it would depend on who you got it graded by.

 

No TPG will call adjustment marks a problem - they were a part of the coin-making process.

I personally don't prefer the look and would pay less for a heavily adjusted coin, but adjustment marks will not affect the grade.

 

This coin should straight-grade. The adjustment marks are just that and not a cause for rejection since they are mint-made. The rim bumps are acceptable for the grade. Has it been cleaned? It is almost certain that it has been cleaned since it is received wisdom that 80% or more of old silver has been. An old cleaning that was not harsh or improper and where the coin has had time to retone naturally will not be cause for a details grade. This coin meets that criteria.

This is a nice coin, IMO and if you are so inclined you shouldn't hesitate to submit it to the TPGs. Would it CAC? Maybe not or probably not, depending upon what grade it got from the TPG.

 

Regarding the marks on the obverse. Stacks called them adjustment marks if I recall (sale was in 1988). I think these are indeed adjustment marks, as opossed to random scratches since they run parallel, as is typical.

 

Adjustment don't affect the grade, but they do affect the value. I once saw an early U.S. gold coin that was an AU, but it had heavy adjustment marks. The coin was marked well below the current market for the grade, but was still a bear to sell. This was back in the days were coin shows were more important to the market than they are now.

This 1795 Flowing Hair Dollar is a no problem, original surface coin except that it has adjustment marks. I never minded them, but the coin was not easy to sell when the time came.

 

If those are just adjustment marks they sure caught my eye immediately. In my opinion they do not run completely parallel to one another. I agree with GDJMSP "NO" to details. No comment on grade sorry.