Is this a counterfeit or not?

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  1. Dominic

    Dominic New Member

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  3. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to CoinTalk,a great place to learn! You're looking at a $100,000+ coin for $500. It looks like a cast coin, even through the PVC. RUN AWAY from this one. Deals as good as this do not exist.
     
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  4. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Based solely on a very quick glance at the provided photos?

    Absolutely.
     
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  5. Hookman

    Hookman Active Member

    Jeez , I just looked that coin up on NGC US and if I had that coin and sold it for it 's true value, I could retire completely.

    I quick-graded in the MS 60's and it lists for over 6 figures !!!

    It's truly unbelievable that someone, anyone, anywhere would be offering that coin for $500.00 ????

    Hoky is no Joky.....RUNNNN


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  6. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    That’s a coin that should be purchased only in a graded slab. We’ve seen two of these in two days.
     
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  7. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

    Welcome to coin talk, It seems that the coin you are looking at is fake.
     
  8. Hookman

    Hookman Active Member

    Go to the site and the clues are abundant that the person is a scammer.

    The hidden face.
    The new member.
    The dead grandfather pass down story.

    A thief is a thief is a thief.
    They find a scam that works, they stick to it as long as it works, then change locations and run it again.

    On eBay I came across a scammer with a fake 1909 Mexican Peso, the Caballito.
    It didn't take but a minute of research to determine it was a fake.

    When I researched the seller I found he had the same coin on several different sales sites.
     
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  9. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

    Let me guess, one of these sites was esty. Don't use esty to buy coins, they will try to rip you off to, On all of thier sales!
     
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  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    So no one has ever had a reasonable and successful purchase of a coin on Etsy ever?

    Why do I get the feeling there's a slight exaggeration here?
     
  11. Hookman

    Hookman Active Member

    Regardless of where it's at. : BUYER BEWARE !
     
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Hidden face" aside, and as much as I hate to play devil's advocate in a thread such as this, being a "new member" nor having a "grandfather" story are automatic tells of a scammer, particularly the former.

    We can rightfully trash this clown (seller) to our little heart's content, but it's also in the best interest of the new who may read this for us not to paint with such a wide brush. There isn't a single person selling coins today, from the most reputable to the greatest shyster, who wasn't new at one time. Grandfathers also have a tendency to pass away and leave belongings behind.

    You're certainly right with your latest post though: let the buyer beware, but let them also be smart enough not to buy what they do not know or understand.
     
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  13. Dominic

    Dominic New Member

    Ok, thank you, I appreciate the knowledge!
     
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  14. Dominic

    Dominic New Member

    How can you tell if it’s cast or not?
     
  15. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    A mold is made usually using a high grade coin. It doesn't matter what year because once the coin is molded the date can be changed. The molding process can't duplicate the sharpness of detail that a cast coin has. It is easiest to see in the lettering. The edges of the letters will be rounded, not sharp.
     
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  16. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

    Well..... I guess your right, maybe a few people have got a good deal.
     
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  17. Hookman

    Hookman Active Member

    Here's an example of fake Morgans on eBay. At least this guy is not a total scammer, he admits they're "commemorative" copies, BUT what about the guys who buy these, with truly evil designs?
    323300948317
     
  18. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    My grandfather handed it down to me. Found in granny’s attic. Picked it up at an estate sale.

    The check’s in the mail.
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    That listing stinks to high heaven. (Or the other, much lower place.) :yack:

    Blatantly fake coin, fake story, venue I've never heard of. :vomit:

    Run away. Far, far away.

    The "dead grandfather" story is stock in trade for many scammers on Craigslist and other sites. So is "I'm going on military deployment and need to sell all this stuff".
     
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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Thread moved to US Coins Forum.
     
  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    This. The lettering was the immediate tell.
     
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