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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 2468960, member: 24314"]You are starting with a FALSE PREMISE.  IMHO, your pictures show only four positions.  Two are identical. Now as for professionals.  Apples & Oranges: The "Micro O" dollars have nothing to do with this thread.  That was a case of counterfeit coins (mostly circulated) getting past collector/numismatists who included them in the VAM Book.  To the best of my knowledge based on written articles, Michael Fazzari (a long-time professional authenticator) condemned the first one he ever saw (it was an AU) around 1994 while employed at PCI. NOTE OF INTEREST: I was told that the coin was certified as genuine and put in a PCI "Signature Series" slab by a well respected, knowledgeable, Morgan dollar expert (over Fazzari's objections). It took the professionals at other grading services (NCG was first to stop slabbing these around 1998 or 1999 after Fazzari was hired and convinced them the coins were bad), until years later to declare the coins contemporary counterfeits. As to the 1914-D mint mark positions.  I have written that I am shocked that the two well regarded professional authenticators I contacted were not able to confirm yesterday what was taught at an ANA Summer Seminar authentication class in the early 1970's:  Four positions.  That makes your point: It looks like well respected, informed, experienced professional authenticators do not know how many positions there are![/QUOTE]