Is this 1877 CC Trade real or fake? Poll inside

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dalladalla80, May 17, 2019.

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Is this 1877 CC Trade dollar Genuine or Fake?

Poll closed May 20, 2019.
  1. Genuine

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Fake

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Dalladalla80

    Dalladalla80 Member

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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think it is real with damage.
     
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  4. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    It sounds like he's been harassed by some questionable do-gooders as to whether the coin is authentic or not.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks genuine to me but I do not consider this a key date as the seller has advertised. Look at the other mintages on Trade Dollars. I would proceed with caution on this coin due to the seller's comments.
     
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  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Definite damage (scratches) near Star 12.
    But the REALLY weird feature is the scratch all the way around the obverse just inside the dentils.
    Makes me think someone was thinking of doing something strange to the coin.
     
  7. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    I've seen the other discussion on this. I'm going to say it's real with a older cleaning then a more recent one, I would not purchase this coin.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Someone took a pin and scratched it all the way around just inside the denticals.
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Real, damaged. Details coin. Cleaned, and scratched.
     
  10. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    Real / details grade and take your pick ( Cleaning - Scratched - Environmental damaged reverse )
     
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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks real to me but damaged.
     
  12. Charles Reese

    Charles Reese Member

    Hard to tell by looking at the photo. Like fake Silver Eagles, in a photo they look real. But comparing it side by side with a real one you can tell the difference in thickness and weight and magnet test. Would have been a sure thing if graded and slabbed by NCG/PCGS. Good luck and proceed with caution. I have seen fake older coins that were made in China. They are smart. They make them to appear old and our government does nothing to stop the flow into the US. So, I can't vote fake or real.
     
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  13. mgmgmg75

    mgmgmg75 Active Member

    Just an observation. How does a coin that was not intended to circulate in the US be so worn and not have any chop marks?
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If could have been used as a pocket piece or used as a worry stone. It could also have been circulated in places that don't use chop marks. Even though the US government minted Trade Dollars for use overseas (Asia to compete against dollar sized coins from other countries) they were allowed to circulate in the US.

    Trade Dollars were legal tender in the US until silver prices dropped, then that provision was repealed and the Treasury had to limit the coin to export demand only. In 1887 the US Treasury redeemed Trade Dollars that were not mutilated. Having a chop mark was mutilated.

    Other possibilities are in could have been placed in a rock tumbler to give it wear as in circulation condition. Lol
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Sounds like something i have done many many years ago. I took an eraser and cleaned up my momma's cent collection dates. She handled it well
     
  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Real holed damaged but legit
     
  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Ok got the wrong link. Original coin. Real damaged scratched cleaned. Looks like a ground find that got shined up
     
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