Is this 1853 A&R Half Accurately Graded at VF35 ? (ANACS VF35, my coin)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Eduard, Nov 9, 2019.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Seems awful weak on around the rims...

    USA 1-2 Dollar 1853 ANACS VF35 - OBV1 N GP - 1.jpg USA 1-2 Dollar 1853 ANACS VF35 - REV1 N GP - 1.jpg
     
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  3. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    The full liberty on the shield, and Liberty's hand, gown and hair look like a 35, but the rims would make me reluctant to spend vf35 money on it. If i were buying I'd probably offer vf20 or 25 money.
     
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  4. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Thanks. Yes, I agree.

    I paid like 50 euros for it so the price was low enough in spite of the weak rims.
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    I agree looking at this specimen you can tell the strike is off. That is very common on seated coinage. Judging from the high points wear and the details still visable ,ie, liberty and the upper wings wear tells me it's spot on at vf 30/35 but again would only want to be in at f/vf money.
    But seeing a rim with full cut detail denticals @ 9 k and at 3 k they barely seened.
    I see that on h-10's all the time. I like to vision the hammer on a down ward strike chatters enough to cause a beveled sort of strike going from strong to weak. If that makes sense? You see this on shield nickels also but that's adding hard nickel to the equation which would cause more bounce......look at a shield nickel that appears to have an RPD, Look again was it a repunch or a bounce ? Both giving a double date look.
     
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    While I'd probably pass at 35 money as well, I don't necessarily think the grade is wrong. It's entirely likely that the planchet was a little light, and didn't receive as much peripheral detail as a planchet at or above normal weight would.
     
  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Ed, you’re a cheapskate ;-) I believe they considered the weak strike when grading it VF35. The surfaces appear to be very original, that’s probably why they decided to grade it more generously.
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    I believe a lot of people have issues with what I call battle ship grey coins. I believe they don't know how to read them when the surface is mute.
    Yes this shows wear, and lacks luster...but details and even wear makes it a keeper to me.
     
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  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I thought the planchets had to have the correct weight, at least within a specific range?
     
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    For me, the VF-35 grade has me debating as to whether to grade that or EF-40. This is no EF-40 debate here because of the obvious wear. I'd say this in the VF-25 to 30 range.
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    For 50 euros, I would be happy with it. Nice coin, Eduard.
     
  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    They do, but sometimes underweight planchets get through. Even with the modern monitoring technology we have today, they sometimes still do.
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Reverse is better I would probably be at 25. However, old silver can get the benefit of the doubt, as will key dates, and known poor strike/bad die issues.
     
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