Is this 09S IHC genuine?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by NumisNinja, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. NumisNinja

    NumisNinja Active Member

    I know the pic isn't isn't the best but I wanted to see if anyone could tell me if this looks like a genuine S mint mark and the grade.[​IMG][​IMG]
     

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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It looks real to me.
     
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  4. Evan8

    Evan8 Old Soul

    Hmm I'm leery. The second 9 looks altered. Compare to the first 9. Second 9 looks wider, like maybe it was an 8. The S looks ok but definitely worried about the second 9. Look closer and maybe better pics?

    Think of what an 8 would look like if changed to a 9. I'm not 100% sure based on the pics though.
     
  5. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Active Member

    I agree the second 9 looks a little funny but that doesn't mean it's been altered. Check on ebay and compare it with other 1909 S IHC's. also wait for more experienced members to give their opinion. Don't know if Rick Snow is a member of Coin Talk. If you go to his website send a picture of the coin to him.
     
  6. NumisNinja

    NumisNinja Active Member

    Here's some better lit pics. I think the second nine is normally shaped different based on other examples I saw on eBay. Here's a pic of my 08S as well for reference.[​IMG][​IMG]
     

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  7. Evan8

    Evan8 Old Soul

    Idk the curl of the second 9 made it look funky. I havent looked at any pics to compare.
     
  8. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Looks good to me.
     
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  9. NumisNinja

    NumisNinja Active Member

    The reason I ask is because it was sold to me with a bunch of culls and common dates as though it had no value. The seller seemed to have some understanding of numismatics and key dates, but I think maybe he thought only the early years were the valuable ones. I'm excited that this may indeed be genuine given the circumstances of the aquisition.
     
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  10. Looks real to me also!
     
  11. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Active Member

    I believe that the 1909 s IHC had the date made with the die and not punched in after. This could explain the difference in the 9s. I think it looks real. I also believe there are no varieties of this cent so if you compare it with a known good they should be the same. No RPDs
     
  12. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I haven't done much work with the Indianhead Cent. I don't know how many reverse dies were used in the production of the 1909-S Indianhead Cent. I have mapped two different unverified possible locations thus far. Anyway I overlaid this map onto the OP's coin. Everything looks OK except the actual design doesn't appear very crisp and sharp. Some of the design devices look to be somewhat mushy/oversized. An indication of a possible transfer die counterfeit. I wouldn't risk purchasing the coin but if I just happened to own it - such is the case for the OP - I would spend the money to have it authenticated.

    I also overlaid the OP's 1908-S Indianhead.

    Indianhead 1909 S Map.JPG Indianhead 1909 S 1st Obverse Overlay.JPG Indianhead 1909 S 2nd Obverse Overlay.JPG Indianhead 1909 S Reverse Overlay.JPG Indianhead 1908 S Map.JPG Indianhead 1908 S Overlay.JPG
     
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