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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 7752505, member: 112"]First off, I freely admit that I know next to nothing about ancients, but I do know a few things about medieval. And from everything I've ever read making the planchets and the striking methods were pretty much identical in both periods. </p><p><br /></p><p>That said, there's a couple basic things you have to realize. When they made the planchets, (and this is excepting the cast method that some of the ancients used), they would hammer out a sheet of the metal to the desired thickness and then cut the planchets from it by hand. Then they would weigh them to verify they had what they wanted. If the planchet was too heavy they'd simply cut a little more off. My point in explaining this is that all planchets were cut, clipped if you will, because that's how they made them. And that left the edges with a particular look.</p><p><br /></p><p>But when they struck the planchets the look of the edges changed, and changed quite noticeably. And no they didn't use collars but the edge still changed as a result of the force of the blow and the metal being pushed and stretched. It became pushed out in the center the sharp edges top and bottom smoothed out. The edge was kind of rounded over after the strike.</p><p><br /></p><p>Once the coin was struck if the edges were cut again by someone clipping them, the look of the clipped area became quite different from that of the original coin, and it could easily be seen because when you're looking at it the cut area is adjoined on both ends by area that had not been cut. So it was easy to see the difference.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now yeah, maybe with some wear the sharp edge at the top and bottom of the cut area might wear off and smooth up a little but not that much. So if you look close you can still see the differences. And if use a loupe it should be even easier to see where the change occurs.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 7752505, member: 112"]First off, I freely admit that I know next to nothing about ancients, but I do know a few things about medieval. And from everything I've ever read making the planchets and the striking methods were pretty much identical in both periods. That said, there's a couple basic things you have to realize. When they made the planchets, (and this is excepting the cast method that some of the ancients used), they would hammer out a sheet of the metal to the desired thickness and then cut the planchets from it by hand. Then they would weigh them to verify they had what they wanted. If the planchet was too heavy they'd simply cut a little more off. My point in explaining this is that all planchets were cut, clipped if you will, because that's how they made them. And that left the edges with a particular look. But when they struck the planchets the look of the edges changed, and changed quite noticeably. And no they didn't use collars but the edge still changed as a result of the force of the blow and the metal being pushed and stretched. It became pushed out in the center the sharp edges top and bottom smoothed out. The edge was kind of rounded over after the strike. Once the coin was struck if the edges were cut again by someone clipping them, the look of the clipped area became quite different from that of the original coin, and it could easily be seen because when you're looking at it the cut area is adjoined on both ends by area that had not been cut. So it was easy to see the difference. Now yeah, maybe with some wear the sharp edge at the top and bottom of the cut area might wear off and smooth up a little but not that much. So if you look close you can still see the differences. And if use a loupe it should be even easier to see where the change occurs.[/QUOTE]
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