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<p>[QUOTE="RBBDoughty, post: 2193507, member: 73447"]You would enjoy <a href="http://www.error-ref.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/" rel="nofollow">this website on errors</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the BIE die chips, similar chips occur in other series as well. The reason that you often see the chip or break in the same spot is because of the obverse and reverse design.</p><p><br /></p><p>As dies are worked in the press, they deteriorate over time. They often form die chips in the same spot because the force in that particular spot is different than the forces experienced by the other devices of the design. It is simply an anomaly of the coin's design.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the Indian Cent series, die chips on the 8th feather tip are very common, especially in 1899. The <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/?s=goatee&post_type=product" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/?s=goatee&post_type=product" rel="nofollow">'goatee' die chips of 1903 and 1907</a> are more rare, but Liberty's chin area is a common spot for die failure (See <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-odd-001/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-odd-001/" rel="nofollow">1901 ODD-001</a> and <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-crk-001/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-crk-001/" rel="nofollow">1901 CRK-001</a> and <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-crk-002/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-crk-002/" rel="nofollow">CRK-002</a>).</p><p><br /></p><p>Another common spot for a die chip in the IHC series is in the center of the reverse die. See the reverse die dots of <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1864-indian-head-penny/1864-no-l-odd-004/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1864-indian-head-penny/1864-no-l-odd-004/" rel="nofollow">1864</a>, <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1898-indian-head-penny/1898-odd-001/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1898-indian-head-penny/1898-odd-001/" rel="nofollow">1898</a>, and <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1883-indian-head-penny/1883-odd-001/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1883-indian-head-penny/1883-odd-001/" rel="nofollow">1883</a>. The reason we know these dots are die deterioration is because I have more than one die state for each. At one point, these dies did not have the dot - but then it gradually started to form and became larger and larger. Until more recently, we were not sure if these die dots were put there by the engraver on purpose, perhaps to catch a thief like they did in <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1875-indian-head-penny/1875-dot-001/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1875-indian-head-penny/1875-dot-001/" rel="nofollow">1875</a>. But now we know its just deterioration.</p><p><br /></p><p>For instance, I have 8 of the 1903 goatee varieties, each in a different die state. It reveals the complete progression of the chip from virtually non-existent to reaching far into the field.</p><p><br /></p><p>I should note here, I define a die chip as something that arises due to deterioration, not man-made damage. It is something that develops over time in the press.</p><p><br /></p><p>Die lines and gouges, however, are typically defined as damage sustained by the die during the die making process.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RBBDoughty, post: 2193507, member: 73447"]You would enjoy [URL='http://www.error-ref.com/']this website on errors[/URL]. As for the BIE die chips, similar chips occur in other series as well. The reason that you often see the chip or break in the same spot is because of the obverse and reverse design. As dies are worked in the press, they deteriorate over time. They often form die chips in the same spot because the force in that particular spot is different than the forces experienced by the other devices of the design. It is simply an anomaly of the coin's design. In the Indian Cent series, die chips on the 8th feather tip are very common, especially in 1899. The [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/?s=goatee&post_type=product']'goatee' die chips of 1903 and 1907[/URL] are more rare, but Liberty's chin area is a common spot for die failure (See [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-odd-001/']1901 ODD-001[/URL] and [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-crk-001/']1901 CRK-001[/URL] and [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1901-indian-head-penny/1901-crk-002/']CRK-002[/URL]). Another common spot for a die chip in the IHC series is in the center of the reverse die. See the reverse die dots of [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1864-indian-head-penny/1864-no-l-odd-004/']1864[/URL], [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1898-indian-head-penny/1898-odd-001/']1898[/URL], and [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1883-indian-head-penny/1883-odd-001/']1883[/URL]. The reason we know these dots are die deterioration is because I have more than one die state for each. At one point, these dies did not have the dot - but then it gradually started to form and became larger and larger. Until more recently, we were not sure if these die dots were put there by the engraver on purpose, perhaps to catch a thief like they did in [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1875-indian-head-penny/1875-dot-001/']1875[/URL]. But now we know its just deterioration. For instance, I have 8 of the 1903 goatee varieties, each in a different die state. It reveals the complete progression of the chip from virtually non-existent to reaching far into the field. I should note here, I define a die chip as something that arises due to deterioration, not man-made damage. It is something that develops over time in the press. Die lines and gouges, however, are typically defined as damage sustained by the die during the die making process.[/QUOTE]
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