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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Pablo Soy, post: 478946, member: 16504&quot;]<b>I also disagree...</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for your welcome GDJ. I am happy I found this. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am Spanish, live in Spain and collect 8 reales from Spanish collonies between 1808 and 1833. </p><p><br /></p><p>I started with Zacatecas mint. I have some very nice examples (not at hand -I&#039;m on the road) but at home. I have a couple of excellent pieces of that date and mint. I will check them -as well as the rest of the type- to see if I find anything like that rim on them, because it sure looks strange somehow, but do not sub estimate how bad a mint Zacatecas was! Zacatecas&#039; coins can literally have nearly anything. I know because I have tehm all except one, but of some I have up to 5 different specimens, like 1821 RG with the king&#039;s five different hair styles!</p><p><br /></p><p>What I cannot see at all is this coin beeing a cast coin. I have a dozen of cast coins of that era, Mexico, Chilpanzingo, Chihuahua, Morelos... They really look like cast coins. I believe this one was struck, not cast. Were it a cast coin all the details would be more obscene or not so delicate as they actually are. If it were a cast coin of later times, the size would be smaller, as it happens with cast coins that come out smaller than originals.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, if it were a fake coin, the faker would have taken a lot of trouble to make it out of silver or a combination of metals that looks the same and weights the same (original coins are also around 27 grams), he would have made a fantastic job just to make a fake coin of a type that is not so expensive or sought by collectors... And then comitts the silly mistake of that rim... mmmh! </p><p><br /></p><p>If it were a contemporary counterfeit, it would look a lot funnier. I have some myself, all from Mexicos war of independence and all in silver, and I can tell: contemporary &quot;artists&quot; were a lot more imaginative than this coin looks.</p><p><br /></p><p>If it depends just on the pictures i would believe it is good. Even the dirt around the letters left after cleaning looks like the dirt on my own coins. I know mine to be genuine (bought in serious auction houses and professional shops), so this one is either an excellent job by a faker with a bad eye to properly fake the edge, or simply a &quot;funny&quot; original one. I still believe it to be genuine, but i confess you made me doubt for a while, and had to have a second look at it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cheers</p><p>Pablo[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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