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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Miko W, post: 1895220, member: 68055&quot;]As a new collector, I am trying to learn the ropes as it relates to cleaned coins. I&#039;ve already acclimated to the idea that a coin can be minted, dumped into a hopper, distributed in bags, carried and handled by an auto mechanic, passed around to 700,000 people in and out of cash registers, dropped on the cement sidewalk or down sewer grates and only occasionally picked up, eaten by a dog and shat, and then kept under my grandpa&#039;s oven for 13 years before I take possession of it, but if I accidentally touch it or blow on it, it is ruined. Fine.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is one of the first coins I ever owned, before I realized that shiny does not mean perfect. Obviously the coin is cleaned, but is it improperly cleaned? I have since purchased Mint State slabbed coins (NGC) that have notable surface imperfections consistent with circulation, but no toning whatsoever. These coins have been cleaned, I&#039;m sure, but they have been favorably graded.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is the problem primarily one of clearly abrasive cleaning such that the coin has heavy scratching, detail wear, etc? I&#039;ve seen stackers on YouTube cleaning coins with vinegar or lemon juice or baking soda, etc. I understand that a collector would not do that, but besides being less collectible/valuable, is it still considered gradable by a TPG if it is shiny and clean but not dull or obviously whizzed?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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