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<p>[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 2499347, member: 21705"]I have two 1800 S-195s which were quickly dismissed as S-194s by attributers of some repute. After reviewing the findings and the coins, I must disagree on these attributions. I wish I had better photographic skills, but I do not. But I can manipulate images supplied by others. These images are from the Dan Holmes collection and I will illustrate a couple of diagnostics which are not mentioned and are not as easily lost due to damage and wear:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]530090[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p> [ATTACH=full]530091[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The first image is the S-195 "rarity" listed as R-5+. It is the one I mentioned that I have two of in my possessive. The second is the S-194 which shares an obverse and is barely scarce at R3-. </p><p><br /></p><p>They are usually distinguished by a thin or thick fraction bar. This works great with high grade examples. But with wear and use, the thin fraction bar often spreads as copper with wear tends to do and they become virtually indistinguishable by this diagnostic with wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>Two other diagnostics should be used as a supplement in determining which die variety you are dealing with.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first is one I noticed with the higher grade images. It it a spike on the left stem of the S-195 which is not present on the S-194. The second was shares with me and it is the junction of the tight stem with the wreath. It intersects precisly at the juntion of the ribbon and the wreath on the S-195, but just below it on the S-194. Here is the S-195 again with the diagnostics encircled.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]530092[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Now look at the same points on the S-194:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]530093[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Notice the lack of a spike on the left stem and the intersection of the right stem below the intersection of the right ribbon and wreath.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the die breaks are more advanced, they are useful. But many are either early die states or too worn to be useful.</p><p><br /></p><p>If my experience is common. then the two varieties would certainly be closer together on the rarity charts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 2499347, member: 21705"]I have two 1800 S-195s which were quickly dismissed as S-194s by attributers of some repute. After reviewing the findings and the coins, I must disagree on these attributions. I wish I had better photographic skills, but I do not. But I can manipulate images supplied by others. These images are from the Dan Holmes collection and I will illustrate a couple of diagnostics which are not mentioned and are not as easily lost due to damage and wear: [ATTACH=full]530090[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]530091[/ATTACH] The first image is the S-195 "rarity" listed as R-5+. It is the one I mentioned that I have two of in my possessive. The second is the S-194 which shares an obverse and is barely scarce at R3-. They are usually distinguished by a thin or thick fraction bar. This works great with high grade examples. But with wear and use, the thin fraction bar often spreads as copper with wear tends to do and they become virtually indistinguishable by this diagnostic with wear. Two other diagnostics should be used as a supplement in determining which die variety you are dealing with. The first is one I noticed with the higher grade images. It it a spike on the left stem of the S-195 which is not present on the S-194. The second was shares with me and it is the junction of the tight stem with the wreath. It intersects precisly at the juntion of the ribbon and the wreath on the S-195, but just below it on the S-194. Here is the S-195 again with the diagnostics encircled. [ATTACH=full]530092[/ATTACH] Now look at the same points on the S-194: [ATTACH=full]530093[/ATTACH] Notice the lack of a spike on the left stem and the intersection of the right stem below the intersection of the right ribbon and wreath. If the die breaks are more advanced, they are useful. But many are either early die states or too worn to be useful. If my experience is common. then the two varieties would certainly be closer together on the rarity charts.[/QUOTE]
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