is silver for preserving wealth?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by 9guns, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. 9guns

    9guns Junior Member

    im still a newbie and am getting conflicting opinions, some say that silver is an investment/ bartering tool and that gold is a wealth preserver but some say yes it can preserve wealth. being a newbie and only holding silver but looking to preserve what ive worked hard to obtain im now confused.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Silver will preserve your wealth just fine as long as the price does not drop below what you bought it at. Now that may sound overly simplistic but it really is just that simple. There is certainly no guarantee that silver will not drop in price. There is merely a lot of speculation that it will go up.

    Of course most of those who happen to think it will go up also happen to own a good bit of silver. Eternal optimist I call them. But then that's because they have been optomistic about silver for decades and it was less than 10 years ago that you could buy it for about $4 an ounce.
     
  4. 9guns

    9guns Junior Member

    well if they had bought in at 4-8 then their wealth is being preserved just fine, im into it at current market values. ive said it before, im not in it for an "investment" if it goes up then i just consider it gravey. my main concern is to preserve what i have and to remain retired. i have a substantial balance in the bank that im considering getting into something because of all the chatter going around about bank failures/economic collaps/dollar collaps.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's the age old question guns - what makes a good investment ? Or - as you say, what can I do to preserve what I have ?

    There's forty eleven different answers. And not a dang one of them has a bit more guarantee than any of the others. Any way you look at it - there's risk of losing what you have with any form of investment or wealth preservation vehicle.

    So about all you can do is pick the one that makes you sleep better at night.

    'Course if it was me, and I was looking to do something like what you want to do - I'd probably buy guns.
     
  6. PeacePeople

    PeacePeople Wall St and stocks, where it's at

    Like any other investment, it's a risk. It is possible that it could preserve your wealth, and it could also drain it.
     
  7. 9guns

    9guns Junior Member

    ive got guns covered, my screen name is a typo, it was supposed to be 97guns
     
  8. 1970 Silver Art

    1970 Silver Art Silver Art Bar Collector


    I guess that means that you are 88 guns short. :goofer:
     
  9. 9guns

    9guns Junior Member

    there or abouts, i think ive exceeded the century mark.

    but to get back on topic, i guess there is no right or wrong answer nor right or wrong advice - only time will tell if the answer/advice given was correct or not. im just curious as to why some guys would advise against silver as a preserver, i like to disect things like that.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Personally - I would not recommend it because it is a fear driven market. Same is true of any precious metal market. And that means that it could collapse at any second.

    Investing in something should be done for good fundamental reasons - and precious metals don't have any.
     
  11. 1970 Silver Art

    1970 Silver Art Silver Art Bar Collector

    I guess it just depends on why you are buying silver. For people are are prepping for SHTF, silver might be seen more as a bartering tool than as a tool for preserving wealth. For people are just buying it a an inflation hedge, then they might just see it as another way to preserve wealth. Then you have people (such as myself) that are collectors that just like to collect certain types of silver and are not looking at it as a way to preserve wealth or as a bartering tool. There could be multiple answers. Some people might just only think about gold when you say inflation hedge or preserving wealth.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Can't imagine why, it has absolutely no use whatsoever. You can't eat it, you can't stay warm with it. You can't shoot food with it. You can't sleep in it.

    In a SHTF situation the only things that will matter or have any barter value will be food, water, shelter, clothes, blankets, or something that helps you procure the same. Silver, gold, diamonds - none of it will have any value.
     
  13. 1970 Silver Art

    1970 Silver Art Silver Art Bar Collector

    Apparently, there are people who think that silver might be used as a bartering tool in a SHTF scenario because they still buy silver as part of their SHTF prepping. If SHTF preppers did not think that silver would not be useful as a bartering tool, then they would not be buying silver (or gold). No one really knows what SHTF will be if SHTF happens.

    I agree with you in the sense that food, water, shelter, clothes etc will be important but I think that true SHTF preppers already took care of those necessities well before they started buying gold and silver. I think that people who are prepping for SHTF think that silver (and gold) will become money once the dollar collapses and they are buying gold and silver to have for the "aftermath" of a SHTF situation.

    Keep in mind that I am just guessing here because I am not a SHTF prepper.
     
  14. tommybee

    tommybee Junior Member

    Silver can preserve wealth. Silver can also increase in value because of its industrial applications. That is its advantage over gold. As stated above, all investments carry risk. Diversify to protect yourself. That's all you can do.
     
  15. Info Sponge

    Info Sponge Junior Member

    Preserve wealth under what conditions? And with what reliability?

    You can lose money in silver if industrial demand drops. Holding silver through the 80s was a miserable experience.

    Silver should do better than, say, bonds during an inflationary period.

    Over one or more generations silver will probably preserve wealth better than cash under the mattress.

    If you're looking to preserve wealth in the face of the most likely threats to it, buy long term care insurance.
     
  16. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    I have a 1 oz silver bar that i bought because it was a art bar, like 5 dollars over spot because the design is cool. I also have some silver morgans and peaces worth melt, i dont think of it as an investment, i just think that its good incase something should happen with the market, or to me, i always have them to back on. Also, i dont cry if it drops because i have like only 8 oz's :)
     
  17. rush2112

    rush2112 Junior Member

    In the event the U.S. dollar collapses your Silver and Gold will most certainly preserve your wealth.Also keep in mind Gold is real money.A Federal Reserve Note in your wallet is only a piece of paper that cost less than $.05 to produce.Gold and silver are rare metals unlike paper and is recognized around the world.I see no problem with exchanging some of your paper notes for some real money.


    Hope this helps.
     
  18. Dinkus

    Dinkus New Member

    Have you ever or do you now currently own PM's GDJMSP? Just wondering what the point of hating on PM's on a PM forum?
     
  19. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    The precious metals have fundamentals. Supply/demand and the cost of production are probably the most important.

    That said, silver will preserve wealth if we have hyperinflation, which is a low probabality event in my opinion. Other than that, I consider it a speculation, and a pretty good one below $20. There aren't many things you can still buy at the same price as 30 years ago. I consider it only a matter of time before the speculators take it up close to the old high.

    Also, I disagree with your other statement that silver and gold have no use. Gold's primary uses are jewelry and as central bank reserves. Silver has many industrial uses because of its special properties and has no good substitute for some applications. Of course, if you are a survivalist, nothing you can't eat or shoot will have value.
     
  20. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Lest we forget about silver bullets... :eating: (JK, I'm just being facetious.)
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't hate them, I just see what I consider the reality of the situation to be while fans of metals see what they want to see.

    If the day ever comes that society as we know it collapses, and I doubt it will and no I am not a survivalist, yeah precious metals will able to be traded or bartered - for a time. But it won't take long before people accepting gold and silver figure out that they are screwing themselves by giving away what they actually need to survive for gold & silver. And eventually they will be willing give all the gold & silver they have for something to eat and a drink of water. That is reality.

    And yes, I have owned them, did for most of my life. But I owned them as coins, not as bullion. Never once have a ever bought a coin just because it is gold or silver. I bought them because of the coin they were.

    As for why I post here, that's because I think it is important for people to think and base their actions on reasoning instead of emotion. And hopefully my words cause some thought occasionally.
     
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