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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;baseball21, post: 7513822, member: 76863&quot;]High ms ultra moderns are almost impossible to grade from pictures.&nbsp; The surfaces and luster which no picture can capture is such a big part of it.&nbsp; That said yes ultra moderns can have marks especially when talking about 65s which just isn’t a good grade for them as one example[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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