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<p>[QUOTE="Colonialjohn, post: 2111835, member: 57741"]It is difficult staying even and making a profit in coins or stamps. Here are some rules I always used to continually make BIG PROFIT margins ...</p><p> </p><p>1. Stay away from Modern Types - Non-Silver Proof Sets, U.S. Mint Issues, etc. Modern stuff generally KILLS YOU. There are some gains in slabbing MS69/70 type coins for the generalist. Its a crazy world we live in ...</p><p>2. Buy the book before the coin. Buy historical coins but be careful in buying coins which have MAXED OUT. U.S. Large Cents or U.S. Colonials at Condition Census Levels - High Profile Collections - unless you agree there is no other way to obtain this specimen and realize you will lose money or break even due to auction frenzy and high auction (17.5% commissions).</p><p>3. Check coin catalogs of major collections. What went hot - what went soft. Each series or Country has GO TO coins.</p><p>4. Buy Foreign - most areas are still virgin and not infested with greed, slabbing and MS grading games if not losing money or you feel you are now stuck in a buy high/sell high scenario - be honest.</p><p>5. Are you into coins simply for its social ramifications? Yes? If so - Then don't spend much.</p><p>6. Are you into coins for both social and retirement considerations?</p><p>7. What are the dealers buying for their own collections that you also specialize in?</p><p>8. What are they selling to put food on the table?</p><p>9. Always work your collections. I meet and know people that just buy. Any idiot can just buy. When you sell and try to make a profit or break even it makes you a more rounded collector. Few understand this principle.</p><p>10. Research or write papers of your coin collecting area of interest. It helps promote your area and makes you more of a solid collector. Know the inner circle of the top dealers in your niche. Know them - VERY WELL. A dealer once told me from California if I was to buy my merchandise strictly from the two big auction houses today I would be out of buisness in a year. Buy raw - slab UP in grade - there is your profit margin - destroy the pedigrees from the 1800's - I see this all the time. Some things are horrible. But these few IDIOTS do need to make a living. Its the signs of the times. Many of my pedigree U.S. Colonials are now in generic slabs with grades 1-3 X higher.</p><p>11. There is always another collection - there is no Santa Claus in numismatics - and the average collector spends 20 mintes/week with his coins which explains alot of your inquires.</p><p> </p><p>Coin Collecting is around to stay for awhile - but tens of thousand $$$ are flushed down the toliet each week. Its a TOUGH hobby. No doubt.</p><p> </p><p>John Lorenzo</p><p>Numismatist</p><p>United States[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Colonialjohn, post: 2111835, member: 57741"]It is difficult staying even and making a profit in coins or stamps. Here are some rules I always used to continually make BIG PROFIT margins ... 1. Stay away from Modern Types - Non-Silver Proof Sets, U.S. Mint Issues, etc. Modern stuff generally KILLS YOU. There are some gains in slabbing MS69/70 type coins for the generalist. Its a crazy world we live in ... 2. Buy the book before the coin. Buy historical coins but be careful in buying coins which have MAXED OUT. U.S. Large Cents or U.S. Colonials at Condition Census Levels - High Profile Collections - unless you agree there is no other way to obtain this specimen and realize you will lose money or break even due to auction frenzy and high auction (17.5% commissions). 3. Check coin catalogs of major collections. What went hot - what went soft. Each series or Country has GO TO coins. 4. Buy Foreign - most areas are still virgin and not infested with greed, slabbing and MS grading games if not losing money or you feel you are now stuck in a buy high/sell high scenario - be honest. 5. Are you into coins simply for its social ramifications? Yes? If so - Then don't spend much. 6. Are you into coins for both social and retirement considerations? 7. What are the dealers buying for their own collections that you also specialize in? 8. What are they selling to put food on the table? 9. Always work your collections. I meet and know people that just buy. Any idiot can just buy. When you sell and try to make a profit or break even it makes you a more rounded collector. Few understand this principle. 10. Research or write papers of your coin collecting area of interest. It helps promote your area and makes you more of a solid collector. Know the inner circle of the top dealers in your niche. Know them - VERY WELL. A dealer once told me from California if I was to buy my merchandise strictly from the two big auction houses today I would be out of buisness in a year. Buy raw - slab UP in grade - there is your profit margin - destroy the pedigrees from the 1800's - I see this all the time. Some things are horrible. But these few IDIOTS do need to make a living. Its the signs of the times. Many of my pedigree U.S. Colonials are now in generic slabs with grades 1-3 X higher. 11. There is always another collection - there is no Santa Claus in numismatics - and the average collector spends 20 mintes/week with his coins which explains alot of your inquires. Coin Collecting is around to stay for awhile - but tens of thousand $$$ are flushed down the toliet each week. Its a TOUGH hobby. No doubt. John Lorenzo Numismatist United States[/QUOTE]
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