Is My REALE, Real?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Chip Kirkpatrick, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:27 PM.

  1. Found this today and wondering if it’s authentic or not? My expert on treasure coins is out of town.

    Lighter in weight and thinner than the one Reale I’ve previously found. However it is known the quality of these degraded over time.

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  3. CopperGenie

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  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I love your finds. My Spanish Cobb/reale knowledge is extremely limited. I love them because in my dumb luck I happened upon one on the Carolina coast thirty years ago. Mine is a hand struck or a Cobb coin. Yours appears to be a milled reale. For the life of me I cannot remember the year that they began milling the pieces. I do know the reason that milling began was for consistency in weight because prior to that the assayers were cheating the weight of the hand struck Cobb coins. More than a few assayers lost their lives over that.... I only mention that because you mentioned this one being thinner than another known piece you have. Personally, I like the way it presents. It doesn’t have a cast appearance to it.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A couple things. Not sure if that's just a typo, but that's a 2 reales not a 1 reale. And it's not a "treasure" coin because it's not Spanish colonial, that one was minted in Spain not the colonies.

    As for the quality degrading, while there was a time when some minted (of all sizes) in the colonial mints were deliberately minted underweight - I am not aware of it ever happening in Spain.

    So, if the coin is indeed underweight (including tolerance levels) for a 2 reales, and given that it has been holed, it's quite possible that the hole was put there deliberately to mark the coin so that others would not be fooled by a fake.

    But I would ask, have you weighed the coin or are you just going by feel ? Because if the weight is correct, then the coin could easily be genuine.
     
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  6. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    In weighing a coin like that, how much would you allow for the hole? There appears to be metal missing, not just pushed aside.
     
  7. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not activity

    Same thing I was thinking...so, looking at the size of the hole, I calculate about 1% of the metal is missing. It follows you could know the weight it is supposed to have, and then extrapolate if it is close to tolerance after subtracting about 1%...it would at least give you an idea...Spark
     
  8. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    Looks good to me just struck off center which is common.
     
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