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<p>[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 701500, member: 4350"]Just coins,</p><p><br /></p><p>I completely understand your point. I understand why the coin was called what it was called. </p><p><br /></p><p>There was a progression of things that led to it.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "real" 1955 Doubled Die was discovered. </p><p>It cost money.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then a deceptive dealer, came up with he name "1955 Poorman's Doubled Die"...Why, because he could then market common cents for 5 bucks a piece. So the original concept was deceptive.</p><p><br /></p><p>It did catch on as a way to fill a hole in a coin album. But the coin is not a doubled die.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now fast forward to today. Our group on this forum knows whats going on with coins to a pretty good degree. </p><p><br /></p><p>Do you know, however, how many people have had coins passed down to them or have seen these mislabeled 1955 coins that really think that they are doubled dies? This is only a guess but probably millions. Those people think that the coin they have which is a 25 cent coin is worth hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you know how many times I've had to tell people that the 1955 cent in there album is not "the big one" even though they thought it was for years? hundreds...</p><p><br /></p><p>The assumption that everyone knows what the coin is because we do, is not a fair assumption.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I am saying is that if someone has a coin album and they want to believe that their 1955 cent that was struck with a deteriorated die is a doubled die, that's their choice.</p><p><br /></p><p>When someone lists a coin, targeting people who don't know what a doubled die is, something is unfair if they call it a doubled die. </p><p><br /></p><p>So while I see your point, there is a reason to teach people what it is and try to get them listed correctly when they are sold.</p><p><br /></p><p>Believe me when I tell you, it is not just the one coin that troubles me. I could and have looked at eBay listings and reported hundreds of items that were mis-represented. I used to be a part of a group that was tasked to do that until eBay decided to side more with the scammers than the legitimate sellers on eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is why even though there are some good dealers still on eBay, ebay has become a place for counterfeiters to prosper as well as those who slab their own coins and then to a smaller degree those who simply list things with inaccurate titles and descriptions. </p><p><br /></p><p>It all bothers me as someone who likes to watch out for others. I know that I am only one small person who is trying to make a difference but if a few things get more accurate or if I've saved someone from making an expensive, or even a cheap mistake on eBay, then I think I've done a good thing. (I hope)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 701500, member: 4350"]Just coins, I completely understand your point. I understand why the coin was called what it was called. There was a progression of things that led to it. The "real" 1955 Doubled Die was discovered. It cost money. Then a deceptive dealer, came up with he name "1955 Poorman's Doubled Die"...Why, because he could then market common cents for 5 bucks a piece. So the original concept was deceptive. It did catch on as a way to fill a hole in a coin album. But the coin is not a doubled die. Now fast forward to today. Our group on this forum knows whats going on with coins to a pretty good degree. Do you know, however, how many people have had coins passed down to them or have seen these mislabeled 1955 coins that really think that they are doubled dies? This is only a guess but probably millions. Those people think that the coin they have which is a 25 cent coin is worth hundreds, if not thousands of dollars. Do you know how many times I've had to tell people that the 1955 cent in there album is not "the big one" even though they thought it was for years? hundreds... The assumption that everyone knows what the coin is because we do, is not a fair assumption. What I am saying is that if someone has a coin album and they want to believe that their 1955 cent that was struck with a deteriorated die is a doubled die, that's their choice. When someone lists a coin, targeting people who don't know what a doubled die is, something is unfair if they call it a doubled die. So while I see your point, there is a reason to teach people what it is and try to get them listed correctly when they are sold. Believe me when I tell you, it is not just the one coin that troubles me. I could and have looked at eBay listings and reported hundreds of items that were mis-represented. I used to be a part of a group that was tasked to do that until eBay decided to side more with the scammers than the legitimate sellers on eBay. This is why even though there are some good dealers still on eBay, ebay has become a place for counterfeiters to prosper as well as those who slab their own coins and then to a smaller degree those who simply list things with inaccurate titles and descriptions. It all bothers me as someone who likes to watch out for others. I know that I am only one small person who is trying to make a difference but if a few things get more accurate or if I've saved someone from making an expensive, or even a cheap mistake on eBay, then I think I've done a good thing. (I hope)[/QUOTE]
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