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<p>[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 701458, member: 4350"]Hi,</p><p><br /></p><p>That's where we disagree. No one is getting ripped of buying candy corn, no matter what they call it....Corn or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Believe it or not, new collectors that were not playing with coins in the fifties and sixties, have no idea what a "poormans" double(d) die is. They see one of these things and think it is something special and valuable. </p><p><br /></p><p>Heck, dealers think machine doubled junk coins are doubled dies. I see them at every show and when you try to educate a dealer in a nice way about machine doubling they look at you cross-eyed and worse, they keep a $2.00 buffalo nickel marked at $100.00.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you know what a coin is and you label it as anything else, no matter what it was called in the past. You are attempting to deceive. </p><p><br /></p><p>Most people who gravitate to coin forums have some knowledge about coins in general. But believe me when tell you that huge numbers of dealers and collectors are clueless about errors and die varieties and coins struck by worn dies. </p><p><br /></p><p>Instead of propagating bad terminology we should be using proper terminology and teaching about what has been mis-represented for years. </p><p><br /></p><p>That will lessen the problem for legitimate dealers who don't attempt to rip people off with misleading labeling. </p><p><br /></p><p>If this thing is not a double(d) die , which it isn't then it shouldn't be called one. </p><p><br /></p><p>Whether you see it or not, people are getting ripped off by poor descriptions and poor titles on eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, If a coin is listed as "what it is" sell a million of them. If it is listed as what it is not, something is wrong. </p><p><br /></p><p>We were all bothered by the guy selling Wide AM and Narrow AM cents that were identified incorrectly. Why is this any different, because the 1955 cent is not as expensive? </p><p><br /></p><p>As my daddy used to say..."It's the principle of the thing". The value of the coin doesn't matter. The inaccurate listing matters but what's one more bad listing on eBay...</p><p><br /></p><p>My ethics don't change from a 10 cent item to a multi thousand dollar item. It's a matter of doing what is right and up front. I am bothered that even 30% of the posters here think that it is OK, just because it is not a huge issue. </p><p><br /></p><p>Somebody could sit there and list these cents all day as they are that common. If someone took a thousand of these things ($10.00 face) and sold each for $20.00 a piece, listing them as something they are not thereby turning that ten bucks into $20,000.00, would you applaud that person or be bothered that 1000 collectors got ripped off. </p><p><br /></p><p>I side with the collectors and it is a shame that there are people who would applaud the rip offs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry to be Blunt,</p><p><br /></p><p>Bill</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 701458, member: 4350"]Hi, That's where we disagree. No one is getting ripped of buying candy corn, no matter what they call it....Corn or not. Believe it or not, new collectors that were not playing with coins in the fifties and sixties, have no idea what a "poormans" double(d) die is. They see one of these things and think it is something special and valuable. Heck, dealers think machine doubled junk coins are doubled dies. I see them at every show and when you try to educate a dealer in a nice way about machine doubling they look at you cross-eyed and worse, they keep a $2.00 buffalo nickel marked at $100.00. If you know what a coin is and you label it as anything else, no matter what it was called in the past. You are attempting to deceive. Most people who gravitate to coin forums have some knowledge about coins in general. But believe me when tell you that huge numbers of dealers and collectors are clueless about errors and die varieties and coins struck by worn dies. Instead of propagating bad terminology we should be using proper terminology and teaching about what has been mis-represented for years. That will lessen the problem for legitimate dealers who don't attempt to rip people off with misleading labeling. If this thing is not a double(d) die , which it isn't then it shouldn't be called one. Whether you see it or not, people are getting ripped off by poor descriptions and poor titles on eBay. Again, If a coin is listed as "what it is" sell a million of them. If it is listed as what it is not, something is wrong. We were all bothered by the guy selling Wide AM and Narrow AM cents that were identified incorrectly. Why is this any different, because the 1955 cent is not as expensive? As my daddy used to say..."It's the principle of the thing". The value of the coin doesn't matter. The inaccurate listing matters but what's one more bad listing on eBay... My ethics don't change from a 10 cent item to a multi thousand dollar item. It's a matter of doing what is right and up front. I am bothered that even 30% of the posters here think that it is OK, just because it is not a huge issue. Somebody could sit there and list these cents all day as they are that common. If someone took a thousand of these things ($10.00 face) and sold each for $20.00 a piece, listing them as something they are not thereby turning that ten bucks into $20,000.00, would you applaud that person or be bothered that 1000 collectors got ripped off. I side with the collectors and it is a shame that there are people who would applaud the rip offs. Sorry to be Blunt, Bill Thanks, Bill[/QUOTE]
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