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<p>[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 701390, member: 4350"]Several times it has been suggested that a "newbie" should be aware of what he is buying. That is valid to a point. At the same time, the "advertising" of a coin on ebay should be accurate. Selling one of these things as a "poorman's doubled die" by someone who knows better is deceptive, pure and simple.</p><p><br /></p><p>It also does a complete disservice to the "newbie" to sell him something that is not what it is advertised to be. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is the same in any field. </p><p><br /></p><p>My brother buys, sells and restores 1969-1972 Chevys. He knows the difference between an SS and a wannabee, kit car. He would never sell a wannabe as a real SS. Why??? because he knows the difference, he knows what an SS is and he knows what a wannabee, pieced together SS clone looks like.</p><p><br /></p><p>An average person buying an SS Chevelle would not have the knowledge that my brother has about what is real and what is not. My brother would still never sell a clone as real SS even though the average buyer would never know all the details that distinguish one vehicle from the other. The reason boils down to ethics.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is no different on a smaller scale with this coin. Saying it's always been called something bears no weight since the seller knows exactly what the coin is. Saying that the buyer should know what it is has some merit but at the same time, even the law allows the buyer to count on representations of a "professional" seller with respect to the description of an item on eBay or anyplace else. </p><p><br /></p><p>Since this "dealer" has actual knowledge that the coin is not as advertised. The dealer is pulling the wool over the eyes of the buyer. In any other venue, that would be called a scam. Since we have become so used to scams on eBay, some people figure that a few more won't hurt.</p><p><br /></p><p>On a smaller level this is no different than selling an SS clone as an SS Chevelle. It's no different than selling a 1972 Machine doubled cent as a doubled die. </p><p><br /></p><p>People come here to get free verdicts as to what their coins are. Some collect them and that's OK. Some place the coins on eBay whether they like what they hear on these forums or not. </p><p><br /></p><p>There are people here that offer totally incorrect opinions as to what coins are. I really think that it makes sense for me to think about my involvement with analyzing coins here on this forum. People hear what they want to hear anyway and they do what they want to do whether they like the response or not. </p><p><br /></p><p>There are people here who are consistently wrong in their judgements of coins, I might leave it to them for awhile.</p><p><br /></p><p>You folks that are right, many times should think about whether you want to give free and accurate advice to those who would still sell things improperly on eBay or elsewhere. To continue analyzing coins for some of the people here could become "contributory negligence" by aiding these people in the sales of their coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess I am letting off a little bit of steam but this thread irks me.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 701390, member: 4350"]Several times it has been suggested that a "newbie" should be aware of what he is buying. That is valid to a point. At the same time, the "advertising" of a coin on ebay should be accurate. Selling one of these things as a "poorman's doubled die" by someone who knows better is deceptive, pure and simple. It also does a complete disservice to the "newbie" to sell him something that is not what it is advertised to be. It is the same in any field. My brother buys, sells and restores 1969-1972 Chevys. He knows the difference between an SS and a wannabee, kit car. He would never sell a wannabe as a real SS. Why??? because he knows the difference, he knows what an SS is and he knows what a wannabee, pieced together SS clone looks like. An average person buying an SS Chevelle would not have the knowledge that my brother has about what is real and what is not. My brother would still never sell a clone as real SS even though the average buyer would never know all the details that distinguish one vehicle from the other. The reason boils down to ethics. It is no different on a smaller scale with this coin. Saying it's always been called something bears no weight since the seller knows exactly what the coin is. Saying that the buyer should know what it is has some merit but at the same time, even the law allows the buyer to count on representations of a "professional" seller with respect to the description of an item on eBay or anyplace else. Since this "dealer" has actual knowledge that the coin is not as advertised. The dealer is pulling the wool over the eyes of the buyer. In any other venue, that would be called a scam. Since we have become so used to scams on eBay, some people figure that a few more won't hurt. On a smaller level this is no different than selling an SS clone as an SS Chevelle. It's no different than selling a 1972 Machine doubled cent as a doubled die. People come here to get free verdicts as to what their coins are. Some collect them and that's OK. Some place the coins on eBay whether they like what they hear on these forums or not. There are people here that offer totally incorrect opinions as to what coins are. I really think that it makes sense for me to think about my involvement with analyzing coins here on this forum. People hear what they want to hear anyway and they do what they want to do whether they like the response or not. There are people here who are consistently wrong in their judgements of coins, I might leave it to them for awhile. You folks that are right, many times should think about whether you want to give free and accurate advice to those who would still sell things improperly on eBay or elsewhere. To continue analyzing coins for some of the people here could become "contributory negligence" by aiding these people in the sales of their coins. I guess I am letting off a little bit of steam but this thread irks me.:-) Thanks, Bill[/QUOTE]
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