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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7701756, member: 24314"]OldSilverDollar, posted: "Cleaning is often an just a viewpoint [<i><span style="color: #660033">Not really - a coin is either original, properly cleaned, or improperly cleaned. Each of these comes in "degrees of originality or cleaning</span></i>.] by coin graders as I have seen many, many experienced coin dealers send in a coin to have it come back cleaned and the dealer and anyone they show it to <b>cannot find a cleaning mark</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <i><span style="color: #660033">That ought to tell everyone about the knowledge of may folks they deal with - including those who sell coins.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>Some obvious cleaned coins they get a pass by graders because the year and series. <b><span style="color: #660033">Very true. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></b></p><p><br /></p><p>You could save a lot of money buying cleaned coins once you understand what to look for and understand the whole cleaning label is itself flawed. Often you will find very nice coins you could look at for hours and not see any rub marks.</p><p>Buying ICG and Anacs coins you could get better deals then raw as people often heavily discount when it has a nice coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">The TPGS try their best to get coins into straight grade holders.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>I seen hundreds of coins come back from crossover from one TPG to another TPG were they were given a cleaned label with no reason given and majority you could Crack out and send back to them and get a strait grade.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">This is also true because of the SUBJECTIVITY <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> that is a major part of the COMMERCIAL GRADING done at TPGS's. The market acceptability of a coin is affected by many factors!</span></i> </p><p><br /></p><p>I bought recently a so called clean coin of a series of coin I do not collect myself that was labeled cleaned/artificial toning but before buying I asked the seller for better photos and was certain the coin was body bagged due to one grading company seeing themselves as God's when accepting crossover coins from another grading company. I got it, cracked it and sent it to NGC priority and my $5000 gamble is now worth $15000, mailed it to heritage yesterday to collect my winnings.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><b><span style="color: #b30000"><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Nice story</span></b>. Let's have the facts.</span></i> </p><p><br /></p><p>TLDR: sometimes so called cleaned coins are hidden gems not the majority of Time but once you know what to look for and how to grade the coin independently of the label.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7701756, member: 24314"]OldSilverDollar, posted: "Cleaning is often an just a viewpoint [[I][COLOR=#660033]Not really - a coin is either original, properly cleaned, or improperly cleaned. Each of these comes in "degrees of originality or cleaning[/COLOR][/I].] by coin graders as I have seen many, many experienced coin dealers send in a coin to have it come back cleaned and the dealer and anyone they show it to [B]cannot find a cleaning mark[/B]. :smuggrin: [I][COLOR=#660033]That ought to tell everyone about the knowledge of may folks they deal with - including those who sell coins.[/COLOR][/I] Some obvious cleaned coins they get a pass by graders because the year and series. [B][COLOR=#660033]Very true. :([/COLOR][/B] You could save a lot of money buying cleaned coins once you understand what to look for and understand the whole cleaning label is itself flawed. Often you will find very nice coins you could look at for hours and not see any rub marks. Buying ICG and Anacs coins you could get better deals then raw as people often heavily discount when it has a nice coin. [I][COLOR=#660033]The TPGS try their best to get coins into straight grade holders.[/COLOR][/I] I seen hundreds of coins come back from crossover from one TPG to another TPG were they were given a cleaned label with no reason given and majority you could Crack out and send back to them and get a strait grade. [I][COLOR=#660033]This is also true because of the SUBJECTIVITY :( that is a major part of the COMMERCIAL GRADING done at TPGS's. The market acceptability of a coin is affected by many factors![/COLOR][/I] I bought recently a so called clean coin of a series of coin I do not collect myself that was labeled cleaned/artificial toning but before buying I asked the seller for better photos and was certain the coin was body bagged due to one grading company seeing themselves as God's when accepting crossover coins from another grading company. I got it, cracked it and sent it to NGC priority and my $5000 gamble is now worth $15000, mailed it to heritage yesterday to collect my winnings. [I][COLOR=#660033][B][COLOR=#b30000]:happy: Nice story[/COLOR][/B]. Let's have the facts.[/COLOR][/I] TLDR: sometimes so called cleaned coins are hidden gems not the majority of Time but once you know what to look for and how to grade the coin independently of the label.[/QUOTE]
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