Is it Really Such a Sin?

You can see traces of it but those NGC photos are so bad they're almost worthless. It's been years since it was graded anyway. But in that single instance that coin was given the blessing by NGC with that toning

 

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I'm sure he does. I tagged him, so he'll likely post it if so.

 

Very true.

 

Could very well be. Yet for a modern 2013 silver one, I just don't see it uniformly toning naturally.

 

I bought the walker raw from edynamic marketing from a plethora of other similarly-toned walkers. The prices of all of these were very low, indicating that they had given up selling them for what they were hoping to get. Interestingly, the prices realized increased substantially after I posted pictures of the example I bought.

The blue/purple bands looked very weird in hand, and there were no elevation chromatics.

Here is the coin:

 

Being in an NGC/PCGS holder means nothing. This seller is known to have developed methods to alter coins already slabbed.

Photographs can be deceptive, and shifty sellers can manipulate pictures to suit their needs.

Even the coins that are unaltered are guilty by association. You're dealing with a known scam-artist and con-man. Can you really trust anything he's touched?

And finally, even if the coin is fine, do you really want to do business with that sort of a low-life? He could sell a 1913 Liberty Nickel, and it would be tainted for the sole reason that he was the one selling it.

 

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Looks AT to me but what do I know?

 

Yes, that coin is AT.

 

I could not agree more. If having a whole bunch of coins that look AT isn't proof enough, I have seen this more than once from this seller with zero morals. A TPG MS or proof RED cent that obviously isn't close to red. I wouldn't buy a single thing from this low life no matter how good of a deal it was.
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Oh that one is baaaad.

 

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/4333453-002/68/

NGC graded it that way

 

Look I don't want to look like I'm defending something just because I have to point some things out, but there are a number of them that were graded that way. Check the pictures and auction records first.

 

I'll be damned. Funny... in edynamics pics it looks fake as can be, but in the NGC pic it looks deep and natural!

 

But it also looks like it should not be RD..... So maybe NGC messed up on this one?

Regardless, the "guilty by association" and "you don't want to give money to that guy" principles still stand.

 

Probably because of the glare lighting trick I explained before. All of his coins seem faded, luster-less, and just disgusting because of that trick.

 

The RD is a bit weird for something with color, but I do not know NGCs policy as far as that goes.

 

As a (former) collector of rainbow toned Lincoln cents, I've never seen a coin with toning garner the RD label. These are usually RB with that much red left. It doesn't really matter what color it has toned, but any color besides copper red should be counted as "not red."

 

That's exactly what I was thinking and I believe how PCGS does it. I just wasn't sure if NGC treated toning the same as color changes or if they probably just gooned that one as far as the color designation goes.

 

I'm going to try this trick and see if it is really what he is doing. I will get back to you with pictures of the coins.

 

I have some. I am in agreement with you in that these should be RB.

MS65RD


MS65RD


PR66RD


PR68RD


PR65RD


PR65RD