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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2301963, member: 24314"]Thought this was answered before...let me go into detail. Look at page#267 in the ANA grading standards It is at the beginning of the Morgan $ section. It is there in earlier editions also.</p><p><br /></p><p>MS/PR-70 is suppose to be a perfect coin. Until many years age they did not exist, although they actually did in modern (back then) sets. Finally the TPGS added 67, and higher levels to the grading scale until one service started calling types of coins such as Silver Eagles MS-70. I've been informed that Condor knows when everything happened regarding TPGS so he can educate all of us on the dates all the changes took place. At the time things were going on it was not important to record; but many are alive who can fill in the blanks for posterity. Let's get the facts "right" with some detective work before they become forgotten. I am fairly certain that NGC was the last service (Condor?) to add 70's to their company's holders. </p><p><br /></p><p>According to the ANA book a MS/PR-70 will have no contact marks or hairlines under magnification (NO POWER SPECIFIED. I think TPGS say 5X [Condor?]). Additionally the piece should have "Very attractive fully original luster" and "Outstanding eye appeal." The 69's have 1 or two minuscule imperfections. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now my opinion: 70's should be perfect. AFAIK all the grading services allow tiny "struck thrus" from lint, and various other causes; however, many 70's are perfect in slabs, without any mint-made imperfections. For me, if I see even one POST-MINT hit, hairline, or imperfection, it becomes a 69. You will find that standard is unrealistic because modern coins like SE are graded quickly by eye (Condor?) and sometimes coins closer to the ANA 68 standard are graded as 70's.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2301963, member: 24314"]Thought this was answered before...let me go into detail. Look at page#267 in the ANA grading standards It is at the beginning of the Morgan $ section. It is there in earlier editions also. MS/PR-70 is suppose to be a perfect coin. Until many years age they did not exist, although they actually did in modern (back then) sets. Finally the TPGS added 67, and higher levels to the grading scale until one service started calling types of coins such as Silver Eagles MS-70. I've been informed that Condor knows when everything happened regarding TPGS so he can educate all of us on the dates all the changes took place. At the time things were going on it was not important to record; but many are alive who can fill in the blanks for posterity. Let's get the facts "right" with some detective work before they become forgotten. I am fairly certain that NGC was the last service (Condor?) to add 70's to their company's holders. According to the ANA book a MS/PR-70 will have no contact marks or hairlines under magnification (NO POWER SPECIFIED. I think TPGS say 5X [Condor?]). Additionally the piece should have "Very attractive fully original luster" and "Outstanding eye appeal." The 69's have 1 or two minuscule imperfections. Now my opinion: 70's should be perfect. AFAIK all the grading services allow tiny "struck thrus" from lint, and various other causes; however, many 70's are perfect in slabs, without any mint-made imperfections. For me, if I see even one POST-MINT hit, hairline, or imperfection, it becomes a 69. You will find that standard is unrealistic because modern coins like SE are graded quickly by eye (Condor?) and sometimes coins closer to the ANA 68 standard are graded as 70's.[/QUOTE]
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