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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2300083, member: 24314&quot;]Mixing apples and oranges again O&#039; Great one.&nbsp; I&#039;m not talking about a coin graded in the past that is raised...happens all the time.&nbsp; Dealers who know the market/how each service grades each type/etc. can still do it with recently graded coins.&nbsp; Back in the early 90&#039;s NGC and PGGS were too strict on 3c &amp; 5c nickels for a time.&nbsp; All those coins were candidates for upgrade.&nbsp; I wrote someplace befor about some Proof Franklins I have that were graded MS-64 or MS-65 in 1987 by one of the &quot;Big two.&quot;&nbsp; According to a TPG who has seen them, a these coins would go up 2 - 3 grades today.&nbsp; I&#039;m leaving them as is for an example of &quot;grade evolution&quot; becoming more liberal.&nbsp;&nbsp; As you have written before:&nbsp; There was a time when NO TRACE OF WEAR was even the norm for PCGS. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Now, I want to see the evidence.&nbsp; Show us the slab.&nbsp; With the number on the label, a TPGS can tell who graded the coin, who sent it in, and when all this took place.&nbsp; SOME TPGS are able to track the number, grade, and TPGS of the slab the coin was crossed out of!&nbsp; Oh, and when you send the same a coin in XXX times and finally get an upgrade...They know that too <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp;&nbsp; I have heard that one well -known numismatist has said something like:&nbsp; &quot;If a coin is worth sending in once, it is worth sending in several times.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I want evidence of a NGC or PCGS MS-64 coin going to an MS-66!&nbsp; Otherwise, lets all of us try not to cloud the thread with &quot;old news.&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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