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Message:: [QUOTE="Terence Cheesman, post: 4268555, member: 86498"]I have puzzled over this current group of coins for some time now. The source of the Electrum coins is not the same as the current Athenian source which is a hoard. The hoard of Athenian coins seems to have pretty well defined boundaries for dating which would start with earliest group of coins seen in any number, the Starr Group IV coins which started circa 470 B.C. and with the majority of the 454 to 404 B.C. issue ending with the Flament Group II coins which might end circa 420 B.C. But even if we assume that the last coin in that hoard was minted in 404 B.C. that would give the hoard a roughly 65 year span . The electrum issues seem to span from about 550 B.C. with the early staters from Kyzikos to about 326 B.C the terminus date for the hektes of Mytilene and Phokaia. I have noted that many of the earlier coins are in high grade. This would be unusual for a hoard with about a 225 year span. I have made inquiries and have been told that the source was a very large collection which included a number of hoards. This evidence does make sense to what I am observing about this current group of coins except that so far I have seen no evidence of any of these coins with any kind of pedigree. [ATTACH=full]1087119[/ATTACH] Erythrai El Hekte 550-500 B.C. Obv.Head of beardless Herakles left. Rv. Hexapartite punch anepigraphic SNG von Aulock 1942 2.53 grms 10 mm Photo by W. Hansen[/QUOTE]