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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;MintyFresh, post: 1710514, member: 20041&quot;]I agree with you, but I am no longer a collector...&nbsp; A few years back, I thought it would be fun to get connect to my younger days and begin collecting again. I really enjoy(ed) coins, especially the older moderns ( I think todays coinage are weak and pitiful, indicative to a weaker nation, in pride and identity. Our coinage of past reflected our ideals and strengths... our purpose. Now they&#039;re just ...flat. no life... but I am getting off on a tangent.)</p><p>back to collecting...&nbsp; I got back into it with a zeal. I joined a bunch of clubs, purchased bags of coins and began to mine and filter through all of the rough for a few diamonds. I joined the online clubs, including coin talk, and sought advice and encouragement, but what i found was the same narcistic whiners that I work with out in the world... sarcasim directed at nubies, not-invented-here syndrome, if you found something cool, there was always the idiot that want to try and steal it from you. It was pitiful, and it made collecting coins a chore, rather than a reward.</p><p>I then tried to get relief from the insanity and negative emotions of third party graders and I found them to be a pitiful as the egos i have been dealing with in the clubs. I have been getting discouraged at the inconsitancy betweeen opinions of the graders, themselves. I have lost a few thousand dollars in the past three years by their greed and the misdiagnosting of a few coins...&nbsp; </p><p>then we get back to eBay;&nbsp; now they tell us, the collecting society, that we cannot use terms in communicating our opinion that a coin is either and MS65 or a 68, or maybe even a lowly 63... only professioanl third party graders have the right to do that now... Speaking attributes and grades in a formaly accepted language of codes and ratings has been forbidden, why, we might ask, becasue the third-party graders have gotten thier lawyers withthe lawyers of the eBay and have rewritten the rules so they can provide exclusive opinions on the condition and worth of a coin... </p><p>the fun in collecting has just been thrashed, except if you ar one who has been able to ride the guantlet of pride and greed and has finacialy positioned oneself to take advantage of this... move towards taking the hobby out of coin collecting...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I probably will get back into it on day.. but it has become another distraction today, and not a pleasant one.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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