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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 5207653, member: 24314&quot;]Now for the 1909-S cent.&nbsp; This is a tough one and I can defend (in a courtroom) any grade from AU-58 to MS-65+!&nbsp; It is a coin I would not buy for my personal collection because there is obvious &quot;rub&quot; on the obverse high points.&nbsp; The old &quot;<b>technical&quot; grade</b> for this would have been <b>Choice</b> (no flaws, beautiful luster) <b>AU</b> (&quot;cabinet friction&quot; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p><br /></p><p>The <b>commercial grade</b> would easily be <b>MS </b>both back then and today<b>.&nbsp; Now the problem:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Today, our old AU&#039;s are virtually always found in MS holders.&nbsp; IMO, today this coin would be <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">very strictly</span>, commercial graded as MS-62 due to the rub.&nbsp; However, the coin &quot;looks like&quot; a coin with a minimum commercial grade of MS-64 when judged with other coins in the market.&nbsp; You&#039;ll never be able to buy a coin as this for less than 64 or 65 money.&nbsp; If I <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> were a successful coin dealer, I would sell it &quot;raw&quot; as an MS-65; or get it crossed into probably a PCGS/NGC MS-64. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>PS&nbsp; I don&#039;t like the color of the reverse so this could be a trick question showing an MS &quot;details&quot; coin.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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