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Message:: [QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 5196213, member: 77413"]It is with great amusement that I have been following along, and up to today I had nothing to contribute. That has changed. I received this coin this afternoon in the mail. It in an ICG folder, graded MSnn XX. What’s the number, and what’s the color qualifier? Let’s see if we understand ICG grading after all. Skip ([USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] ) has asked folks for evidence. Let’s go the other way. Here is the evidence in an ICG holder. Show your stuff and guess the grade. I will post it with my commentary later. I’ll have better focused photos then, after I crack it out and don’t have the plastic holder in the way. I had to tilt the coin very slightly so the lighting did not reflect off the holder into the lens. First, here is a shot of the luster, and a moving light source so you can be confident that the lighting is not hiding any gouges, die scratches, or hairlines. This is very close to the in-hand full red color. The reverse is ever so slightly less brilliant than the obverse. The white surround of the holder covers up a bit of the reverse rim, so you will see a pale halo - but the rim is actually OK. [ATTACH=full]1214567[/ATTACH] Here are high resolution photos of the obverse and reverse. Sure, you cannot grade from photos, but you really should give this a try. If you think you are a grader, give it a go.[ATTACH=full]1214570[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1214571[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]