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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bob Evancho, post: 5190358, member: 84595&quot;]Does any knowledgeable collector really buy a coin because of the TPG holder it is in?&nbsp; I keep checking eBay for 1878 VAM 44 coins.&nbsp; There are two currently, one PCGS 61 and one NGC 61.&nbsp; I wish I had those two coins to show and compare them with my ICG 61 graded and encapsulated VAM 44A. I wish I could take good pictures as comparison (hope ICG did) because the NGC 61 is horrible with much chatter in the fields in front of Liberty&#039;s face and flatness above the ear (looks worse than my SEGS encapsulated 44A AU-58 details cleaned).&nbsp; The PCGS 61 coin has some scratches in the field in front of Liberty&#039;s face and a deeper scratch above the ear and rub on the cheek.&nbsp; In my honest opinion, my ICG 61 has better eye appeal, much less chatter and much less marks than either PCGS or NGC graded coins.&nbsp; Also I looked at my May 8, 2015 CDN and noticed that the HIGH for PCGS was 91.25% and NGC was 90.68% and the ICG HIGH was 95.24%.&nbsp; Since I am a collector (65 years), I buy the coin and not the holder.&nbsp; So to me, ICG is not as bad as many people say.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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