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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 5190353, member: 24314"]GoldFinger1969, post: 5183532, member: 73489"]<b><span style="color: #b30000">Insider, Big Picture: </span></b><i> Have you and your colleagues at ICG or contacts outside ICG disgussed the implications of the CU deal ? Do you guys see any secular trend in terms of coins and/or other colletibles ? Do you sense a tailwind from stay-at-home ? Any thoughts ?</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><span style="color: #660066">I was late to the party. My boss, one of the NGC guys I was on the phone with, and one other person all knew about the sale before I did. I see no effect on anything. It's just business and time will tell. </span></p><p><br /></p><p>baseball21, posted: Less variance sure, but it is absurd for someone to claim that there is no subjectivity in it. (<span style="color: #660066">Since you have continued to demonstrate that you have no clue what the "original and only true technical grading system was in 1972 on...; the ONLY THING ABSURD <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> is what <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> you are posting.</span>)</p><p><br /></p><p>If someone was sent 10k coins over and over over 5/10/or even 15 years in random submissions of various sizes there is 0 chance they grade every coin the exact same every time. (<span style="color: #660066">Now that's really funny! It can be demonstrated EVERY DAY that your favorite TPGS changes grades on even the exact same coin often in less than a few months!</span>) That means there's subjectivity even in that. If you ask someone 10 trillion times what 2+2 is the answer is always 4. <span style="color: #660066">(That's until the folks in charge of education change the way we add.)</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660033">Well, you got me. All grading is subjective - especially now when MS can be applied to a coin from an AU-55 to an MS-70. Things were different <b><i>before you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> were around.</i></b> There was a standard for MS and "true technical grading" was done with a stereomicroscope to make 100% sure that the EASILY DETERMINED line between AU and MS was extremely adhered to so that a coin was not called MS one day and AU another or an AU became MS no matter how many times it was sent in, no matter how much its value increased, and no matter how many decades had passed. </span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 5190353, member: 24314"]GoldFinger1969, post: 5183532, member: 73489"][B][COLOR=#b30000]Insider, Big Picture: [/COLOR][/B][I] Have you and your colleagues at ICG or contacts outside ICG disgussed the implications of the CU deal ? Do you guys see any secular trend in terms of coins and/or other colletibles ? Do you sense a tailwind from stay-at-home ? Any thoughts ? [/I] [COLOR=#660066]I was late to the party. My boss, one of the NGC guys I was on the phone with, and one other person all knew about the sale before I did. I see no effect on anything. It's just business and time will tell. [/COLOR] baseball21, posted: Less variance sure, but it is absurd for someone to claim that there is no subjectivity in it. ([COLOR=#660066]Since you have continued to demonstrate that you have no clue what the "original and only true technical grading system was in 1972 on...; the ONLY THING ABSURD :( is what :confused::wacky: you are posting.[/COLOR]) If someone was sent 10k coins over and over over 5/10/or even 15 years in random submissions of various sizes there is 0 chance they grade every coin the exact same every time. ([COLOR=#660066]Now that's really funny! It can be demonstrated EVERY DAY that your favorite TPGS changes grades on even the exact same coin often in less than a few months![/COLOR]) That means there's subjectivity even in that. If you ask someone 10 trillion times what 2+2 is the answer is always 4. [COLOR=#660066](That's until the folks in charge of education change the way we add.)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#660033]Well, you got me. All grading is subjective - especially now when MS can be applied to a coin from an AU-55 to an MS-70. Things were different [B][I]before you :cigar: were around.[/I][/B] There was a standard for MS and "true technical grading" was done with a stereomicroscope to make 100% sure that the EASILY DETERMINED line between AU and MS was extremely adhered to so that a coin was not called MS one day and AU another or an AU became MS no matter how many times it was sent in, no matter how much its value increased, and no matter how many decades had passed. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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