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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 5167379, member: 24314"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />Lehigh96, posted: "If you think the question is not worth answering because it carries the implication that the people who work at both ICG and ANACS are not as knowledgeable as those at NGC and PCGS, you have again missed the point."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Not at all, as a young man, your use of the English language is very clear. Your question was not worth answering at the time BECAUESE as I wrote - CAC is not a TPGS and DH is no longer at PCGS. Any other "superstar" at that company was let go. They do have a "superstar" consultant for error coins. The ONLY "superstar" at a TPGS by your definition is the owner of NGC. Unfortunately, that companies "Superstar" does not see every coin. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>I have told you several times that technical knowledge isn't enough to vault your grading company into the top tier. And you can't complain [<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Note to all: I have <b>not complained</b> <b>about anything!</b> I'm not obsessed with someone's rating opinion of any TPGS- each of us has one.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />] </span></i>that the reason why NGC & PCGS are in that top tier is all related to marketing and then tell me that your company doesn't engage in said marketing. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Yikes! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I didn't even know we have Twitter. Do we have a Facebook also?</span></i>] This isn't 1986, every company needs to exhaust every avenue to reach potential customers. People spend over 2 hours per day on social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tik-Tok etc). So if your company doesn't have a robust social media program, then you have already lost. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Lost what, customers? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> You <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie25" alt=":blackeye:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> may not be as informed as you think. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> See my answer to market share below.] </span></i> So lets look at the Twitter profiles of each of the big four by listing twitter follower count and total tweets.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS: 11.2K followers--6389 Tweets</p><p>NGC: 8.2K followers--3738 Tweets</p><p>ICG: 1.2K followers--243 Tweets</p><p>ANACS: 351 followers--517 Tweets</p><p><br /></p><p>I have asked you who your superstar is at your company several times. I follow all four major grading companies on Twitter. From time to time, the President (superstar) of the top 2 will tweet something and it will often have a photo of that superstar in the tweet. Because of that, I know who they are, and what they look like.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why don't I know who the President (superstar) of ICG and ANACS are? [<b><i><span style="color: #660066">??</span></i></b>] That is your company's fault, not mine. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Oh my, do mean our non-superstars are not "twerps" because they don't tweet. We cluck? Do you realize that we are posting in a chat room that most "clucks" have never heard of and what we post is of very little significance to most tweeting folks</span></i>?] You have the opportunity to speak directly to me and every other follower simply by increasing your activity level on the social media platforms, but you don't do it. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">I'm just a little cluck. I don't even know what a tweet is and I don't intend to find out. Posting with you and others here is my <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> contribution to the "smoke."</span></i>] Earlier in this thread you all but laughed at me for promoting the idea of a "superstar" to run your company. Perhaps instead of scoffing at me, you can view me as a potential customer, and try to understand why I view your company as a second tier grading company, despite the grading acumen of you and your coworkers. [<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">I appreciate your concern; however, I'm a realist. There are reasons, several of which you have mentioned, why ICG is in the position it is. I am glad I don't work in the PCGS/NGC "sweat mills!" When I worked at NGC (in NJ), it was a different company. I looked forward to walking in the office every day. I cannot fully explain that thrill to someone who has not lived it. Now, at ICG I have the same feeling of enjoyment as I had then.</span></i>] </p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS isn't better than ICG just because they have better marketing, it is because they have better marketing and a better product.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS has a registry, ICG doesn't!</p><p>PCGS has the best holder in business (durability, stacking, aesthetics)</p><p>PCGS has the best security and anti counterfeiting technology</p><p>PCGS provides the best photos</p><p>PCGS has the best website</p><p>PCGS has a price guide</p><p>PCGS has graded the most coins</p><p><br /></p><p>There is more to being a good grading company than grading coins, and PCGS is clearly the top grading company. Keep in mind that I am an NGC guy who is admitting this. I prefer NGC holders, I think their grading is more consistent, I prefer the NGC registry, but there are clearly areas where PCGS beats NGC just like they beat ICG and ANACS." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Well, who would have guessed.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">Thanks for your info.</span></i> <b><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)"> Please write to someone WHO CARES!</span></b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)">The real answer to everything you have posted is this: The owners of ICG are perfectly content with our TPGS market share which I believe has <b>increased</b> <b><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> each year</b> in the last decade except for two which stayed the same.</span></i> <b><i><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">END OF STORY! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, you forgot to add another PCGS "accomplishment" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie25" alt=":blackeye:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> to your list above. PCGS has slabbed more COUNTERFEIT coins than ANACS and ICG combined! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 5167379, member: 24314"]:rolleyes::confused:Lehigh96, posted: "If you think the question is not worth answering because it carries the implication that the people who work at both ICG and ANACS are not as knowledgeable as those at NGC and PCGS, you have again missed the point." [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Not at all, as a young man, your use of the English language is very clear. Your question was not worth answering at the time BECAUESE as I wrote - CAC is not a TPGS and DH is no longer at PCGS. Any other "superstar" at that company was let go. They do have a "superstar" consultant for error coins. The ONLY "superstar" at a TPGS by your definition is the owner of NGC. Unfortunately, that companies "Superstar" does not see every coin. :smuggrin:[/COLOR][/I] I have told you several times that technical knowledge isn't enough to vault your grading company into the top tier. And you can't complain [:confused: [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Note to all: I have [B]not complained[/B] [B]about anything![/B] I'm not obsessed with someone's rating opinion of any TPGS- each of us has one.;)] [/COLOR][/I]that the reason why NGC & PCGS are in that top tier is all related to marketing and then tell me that your company doesn't engage in said marketing. [[I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Yikes! :jawdrop: I didn't even know we have Twitter. Do we have a Facebook also?[/COLOR][/I]] This isn't 1986, every company needs to exhaust every avenue to reach potential customers. People spend over 2 hours per day on social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tik-Tok etc). So if your company doesn't have a robust social media program, then you have already lost. [[I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Lost what, customers? :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: You :blackeye: may not be as informed as you think. :D See my answer to market share below.] [/COLOR][/I] So lets look at the Twitter profiles of each of the big four by listing twitter follower count and total tweets. PCGS: 11.2K followers--6389 Tweets NGC: 8.2K followers--3738 Tweets ICG: 1.2K followers--243 Tweets ANACS: 351 followers--517 Tweets I have asked you who your superstar is at your company several times. I follow all four major grading companies on Twitter. From time to time, the President (superstar) of the top 2 will tweet something and it will often have a photo of that superstar in the tweet. Because of that, I know who they are, and what they look like. Why don't I know who the President (superstar) of ICG and ANACS are? [[B][I][COLOR=#660066]??[/COLOR][/I][/B]] That is your company's fault, not mine. [[I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Oh my, do mean our non-superstars are not "twerps" because they don't tweet. We cluck? Do you realize that we are posting in a chat room that most "clucks" have never heard of and what we post is of very little significance to most tweeting folks[/COLOR][/I]?] You have the opportunity to speak directly to me and every other follower simply by increasing your activity level on the social media platforms, but you don't do it. [[I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]I'm just a little cluck. I don't even know what a tweet is and I don't intend to find out. Posting with you and others here is my :wacky: contribution to the "smoke."[/COLOR][/I]] Earlier in this thread you all but laughed at me for promoting the idea of a "superstar" to run your company. Perhaps instead of scoffing at me, you can view me as a potential customer, and try to understand why I view your company as a second tier grading company, despite the grading acumen of you and your coworkers. [[I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]I appreciate your concern; however, I'm a realist. There are reasons, several of which you have mentioned, why ICG is in the position it is. I am glad I don't work in the PCGS/NGC "sweat mills!" When I worked at NGC (in NJ), it was a different company. I looked forward to walking in the office every day. I cannot fully explain that thrill to someone who has not lived it. Now, at ICG I have the same feeling of enjoyment as I had then.[/COLOR][/I]] PCGS isn't better than ICG just because they have better marketing, it is because they have better marketing and a better product. PCGS has a registry, ICG doesn't! PCGS has the best holder in business (durability, stacking, aesthetics) PCGS has the best security and anti counterfeiting technology PCGS provides the best photos PCGS has the best website PCGS has a price guide PCGS has graded the most coins There is more to being a good grading company than grading coins, and PCGS is clearly the top grading company. Keep in mind that I am an NGC guy who is admitting this. I prefer NGC holders, I think their grading is more consistent, I prefer the NGC registry, but there are clearly areas where PCGS beats NGC just like they beat ICG and ANACS." :rolleyes: [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Well, who would have guessed.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]Thanks for your info.[/COLOR][/I] [B][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)] Please write to someone WHO CARES![/COLOR][/B] :p [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 102)]The real answer to everything you have posted is this: The owners of ICG are perfectly content with our TPGS market share which I believe has [B]increased[/B] [B]:jawdrop: each year[/B] in the last decade except for two which stayed the same.[/COLOR][/I] [B][I][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]END OF STORY! :kiss::kiss: [/COLOR][/I][/B] BTW, you forgot to add another PCGS "accomplishment" :blackeye: to your list above. PCGS has slabbed more COUNTERFEIT coins than ANACS and ICG combined! :smuggrin:[/QUOTE]
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