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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3212444, member: 24314"]CircCam, posted: "My only real issue with ICG is its reputation. I do a lot of wheeling and dealing while upgrading my type set and having to listen to dealers telling me that XF coins are VF, etc. when they are clearly not JUST because they are in an ICG slab is annoying. Grading wise on classic stuff they don’t seem any less accurate than the others to me."</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> If all of you could sit behind the ICG table at a coin show, you would start to believe that 70% of the small time professional dealers <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> selling coins at local shows don't know much about grading or authentication. All many of them can do is open a gray sheet to buy or sell a slab. It is appalling! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie79" alt=":rage:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>wxcoin, posted: "After reading some of the lively discussions in this thread I want to ask some questions about the typical grader at the TPGs.:</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll try to answer some of this from only what I know from working at several different services. Some of this may not apply to all of the major services. </p><p><br /></p><p>1. <b>What is the average years of experience of a grader?</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>This cannot be answered reliably as new graders are put into the "pipeline." While they can grade (many have taken ANA seminars, worked in shops and passed a grading test period at the TPGS) they have ZERO actual experience. At the other end of the scale, there are long-time employees with decades of experience. Many of these folks were professional dealers at one time. </p><p><br /></p><p>2. <b>With the large numbers of coins graded each year are the more experienced graders assigned to the more valuable coins?</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>Yes, of course. With major coins the owners of the TPGS see everything. At one service I worked for, the boss and I were working late after everyone had left. He was grading a "deal." I suggested he go home and let me finish it and he said no, the grades had to be "right." </p><p><br /></p><p>3. <b>What's the employee retention rate? I assume it's a tedious, high pressure job.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>Yes, yes, and sometimes. It has its perks but it can be very boring and tedious for the new guys and the folks grading modern coins all day. It also depends on what TPGS you work for. There is usually less pressure outside of the top two.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3212444, member: 24314"]CircCam, posted: "My only real issue with ICG is its reputation. I do a lot of wheeling and dealing while upgrading my type set and having to listen to dealers telling me that XF coins are VF, etc. when they are clearly not JUST because they are in an ICG slab is annoying. Grading wise on classic stuff they don’t seem any less accurate than the others to me." :rolleyes: If all of you could sit behind the ICG table at a coin show, you would start to believe that 70% of the small time professional dealers :bucktooth: selling coins at local shows don't know much about grading or authentication. All many of them can do is open a gray sheet to buy or sell a slab. It is appalling! :rage: wxcoin, posted: "After reading some of the lively discussions in this thread I want to ask some questions about the typical grader at the TPGs.: I'll try to answer some of this from only what I know from working at several different services. Some of this may not apply to all of the major services. 1. [B]What is the average years of experience of a grader? [/B] This cannot be answered reliably as new graders are put into the "pipeline." While they can grade (many have taken ANA seminars, worked in shops and passed a grading test period at the TPGS) they have ZERO actual experience. At the other end of the scale, there are long-time employees with decades of experience. Many of these folks were professional dealers at one time. 2. [B]With the large numbers of coins graded each year are the more experienced graders assigned to the more valuable coins? [/B] Yes, of course. With major coins the owners of the TPGS see everything. At one service I worked for, the boss and I were working late after everyone had left. He was grading a "deal." I suggested he go home and let me finish it and he said no, the grades had to be "right." 3. [B]What's the employee retention rate? I assume it's a tedious, high pressure job. [/B] Yes, yes, and sometimes. It has its perks but it can be very boring and tedious for the new guys and the folks grading modern coins all day. It also depends on what TPGS you work for. There is usually less pressure outside of the top two.[/QUOTE]
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