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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3228293, member: 112"]Over the years I've written a lot about this subject, not just on this forum, and some of it published as well. But when you ignore all the hype, the advertising, the fan talk, and get right down to the nitty gritty - what I said above is quite true. </p><p><br /></p><p>And there are a few other interesting points that go along with it. For instance, back before ANACS and ICG swapped owners and staff members with each other there's an interesting observation that few ever noticed and even fewer ever mentioned that had to do with ANACS. People used to talk about how rare the 70 grade was, and back then it actually was in most cases. But back then who ever saw a 70 in an ANACS slab ? Nobody did because there weren't any. But even then it was said that NGC and PCGS had tougher standards than ANACS. And to make it even tougher it was PCGS policy that they did not assign the 70 grade. But they didn't really abide by it, they assigned more than their share even then. But ANACS didn't assign any !</p><p><br /></p><p>And then you have the too numerous to count examples of coins in ANACS and ICG slabs being cracked out and sent to either NGC or PCGS and those coins getting upgraded from what they were in those ANACS and ICG slabs. And still today the same thing happens. And it also happens between NGC and PCGS themselves, each one routinely upgrades coins that were previously in the other's slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>So when you consider everything I said above and couple it with these things mentioned here, and more - well, the bottom line of what I said above moves right to the forefront - buy the coin, not the slab ! The coin doesn't change but the grades and the plastic changes all the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only time this constant changing of grades and slabs will ever stop is when all the TPGs agree to adopt and adhere to one universal and static set of grading standards. Something I first started writing about and proposing over 20 years ago. And the only way that will ever happen is when all of you, and all of you means everybody in numismatics not just those on this forum, demands it happens. </p><p><br /></p><p>And don't fool yourselves, you CAN demand it and get it. Why, how ? It's easy, it's because all of you are the ones with the money, YOU control the money - nobody else - YOU ! And he who controls the money gets what he wants in this business <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3228293, member: 112"]Over the years I've written a lot about this subject, not just on this forum, and some of it published as well. But when you ignore all the hype, the advertising, the fan talk, and get right down to the nitty gritty - what I said above is quite true. And there are a few other interesting points that go along with it. For instance, back before ANACS and ICG swapped owners and staff members with each other there's an interesting observation that few ever noticed and even fewer ever mentioned that had to do with ANACS. People used to talk about how rare the 70 grade was, and back then it actually was in most cases. But back then who ever saw a 70 in an ANACS slab ? Nobody did because there weren't any. But even then it was said that NGC and PCGS had tougher standards than ANACS. And to make it even tougher it was PCGS policy that they did not assign the 70 grade. But they didn't really abide by it, they assigned more than their share even then. But ANACS didn't assign any ! And then you have the too numerous to count examples of coins in ANACS and ICG slabs being cracked out and sent to either NGC or PCGS and those coins getting upgraded from what they were in those ANACS and ICG slabs. And still today the same thing happens. And it also happens between NGC and PCGS themselves, each one routinely upgrades coins that were previously in the other's slab. So when you consider everything I said above and couple it with these things mentioned here, and more - well, the bottom line of what I said above moves right to the forefront - buy the coin, not the slab ! The coin doesn't change but the grades and the plastic changes all the time. The only time this constant changing of grades and slabs will ever stop is when all the TPGs agree to adopt and adhere to one universal and static set of grading standards. Something I first started writing about and proposing over 20 years ago. And the only way that will ever happen is when all of you, and all of you means everybody in numismatics not just those on this forum, demands it happens. And don't fool yourselves, you CAN demand it and get it. Why, how ? It's easy, it's because all of you are the ones with the money, YOU control the money - nobody else - YOU ! And he who controls the money gets what he wants in this business ;)[/QUOTE]
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