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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;nerosmyfavorite68, post: 24860632, member: 134416&quot;]I guess numiscorner ditched the grades in their descriptions.&nbsp; I trawled through the Byzantine page, trying to find an example.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/numiscorner/239/product/coin_constans_ii_follis_662667_carthage__copper_sear1055/1247818/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/numiscorner/239/product/coin_constans_ii_follis_662667_carthage__copper_sear1055/1247818/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/numiscorner/239/product/coin_constans_ii_follis_662667_carthage__copper_sear1055/1247818/Default.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve seen listings where something like that was graded VF.&nbsp; Their Byzantines tend to have ugly surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p>CNG is a pretty respected, high-end ancients dealer.&nbsp; I&#039;d say both johnmilton and CNG are correct; it depends on what grading scale one uses, old or new.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, on numisforums I had posted a Solidus which I called XF (by wear it was probably AU, with mirror-like surfaces), but someone pointed out that (conservative version) Extremely fine would be something with a near perfect strike.</p><p><br /></p><p>That being said, the Justinian I in question is a much better than normal tremissis, worthy of almost any collection.&nbsp; The Tyrant Collection (hedge fun billionaire who has ALL the emperors) might go ewww, but 99.99% of collectors would be quite pleased with it.</p><p><br /></p><p>We&#039;re engaged in a fun, theoretical discussion.&nbsp; Most collectors of ancients are just happy with that particular coin, no matter what grade&#039;s slapped on it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Aaron Berk pointed out that he&#039;d rather have an Alexander the Great tetradrachm in VF with beautiful die work than a &#039;lustre-bomb&#039; (his term) in minty condition, but with a lousy style.</p><p><br /></p><p>It also circles back to my point that ancients are much tougher to grade.&nbsp; There&#039;s a lot of gray areas.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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