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<p>[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 7930787, member: 72790"]Sometimes it may be impossible to assign with certainty where a coin belongs. Take the early silver of the mint of Caesarea. Tiberius appears on silver coins (like RIC 1 Tiberius 84 or BMC, Tiberius 172) where he appears on a silver coin that looks remarkably like the silver denarius. Most reference books call it a drachma but the legends on both sides are entirely in Latin and the weights of these coins are in the same range as the denarii of Western mints. I wonder what the average Roman might have called such coins and if coins like this one would have been considered denarii in Italy (assuming some wound up there) and drachmas in the East but having the same value. With weights being pretty much equal, and assuming the fineness of silver the same, which is not true of later issues from Caesarea, and the legends completely in Latin, it may be that modern writers simply use geographic location as the determination with the coins of Caesarea being labelled as drachmas since the coins are minted east of the Adriatic and as denarii if to the west of the Adriatic. Again, what I would like to know is if geography determined what the name of such coins was and did they circulate as coins of the same value wherever they showed up. Below I have such a coin of Tiberius (along with one of his denarii). It is not in great shape and is well worn with signs of long use. These Caesarea coins of Tiberius are pricey and I only have this low grade one to pair with a Tiberius denarius but even so, one can see their similarity. The piece, labelled as a drachma by Seaby, [ATTACH=full]1371276[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1371276[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1371278[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1371279[/ATTACH] is 3.41 grams and is a scarcer variety as the head of Drusus (actually the obverse of this coin) is bare with no legend. In Seaby Silver Coins, Vol. II, it is # 3. In addition to the OP's question about the Ephesus mint, any readers care to venture on the question of compatibility of silver coinage from any Eastern mints (except for Alexandria) being accepted in the Latin West at par with those of Eastern mints, IF the legends were in Latin? Caesarea continued with Latin up to the reign of Nero.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kevin McGonigal, post: 7930787, member: 72790"]Sometimes it may be impossible to assign with certainty where a coin belongs. Take the early silver of the mint of Caesarea. Tiberius appears on silver coins (like RIC 1 Tiberius 84 or BMC, Tiberius 172) where he appears on a silver coin that looks remarkably like the silver denarius. Most reference books call it a drachma but the legends on both sides are entirely in Latin and the weights of these coins are in the same range as the denarii of Western mints. I wonder what the average Roman might have called such coins and if coins like this one would have been considered denarii in Italy (assuming some wound up there) and drachmas in the East but having the same value. With weights being pretty much equal, and assuming the fineness of silver the same, which is not true of later issues from Caesarea, and the legends completely in Latin, it may be that modern writers simply use geographic location as the determination with the coins of Caesarea being labelled as drachmas since the coins are minted east of the Adriatic and as denarii if to the west of the Adriatic. Again, what I would like to know is if geography determined what the name of such coins was and did they circulate as coins of the same value wherever they showed up. Below I have such a coin of Tiberius (along with one of his denarii). It is not in great shape and is well worn with signs of long use. These Caesarea coins of Tiberius are pricey and I only have this low grade one to pair with a Tiberius denarius but even so, one can see their similarity. The piece, labelled as a drachma by Seaby, [ATTACH=full]1371276[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1371276[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1371278[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1371279[/ATTACH] is 3.41 grams and is a scarcer variety as the head of Drusus (actually the obverse of this coin) is bare with no legend. In Seaby Silver Coins, Vol. II, it is # 3. In addition to the OP's question about the Ephesus mint, any readers care to venture on the question of compatibility of silver coinage from any Eastern mints (except for Alexandria) being accepted in the Latin West at par with those of Eastern mints, IF the legends were in Latin? Caesarea continued with Latin up to the reign of Nero.[/QUOTE]
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